Approved Minutes - 2011-09-26City of Lake Oswego Planning Commission
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CITY OF LAKE OSWEGO
Planning Commission Minutes
September 26, 2011
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Jon Gustafson called the Planning Commission meeting of September 26, 2011,
to order at 6:30 p.m. in the Santiam Room of the West End Building, 4101 Kruse Way,
Lake Oswego, Oregon.
2. ROLL CALL
Members present were Chair Jon Gustafson, Vice Chair Puja Bhutani and
Commissioners Jim Johnson and Todd Prager. Commissioners Bill Gaar, Julia Glisson
and Russell Jones were excused.
Staff present were Debra Andreades, Senior Planner; Sidaro Sin, Senior Planner; Laura
Weigel, Associate Planner; Evan Boone, Deputy City Attorney; and Iris McCaleb,
Administrative Support.
3. CITIZEN COMMENT
None.
4. COUNCIL UPDATE
Ms. Andreades reported the Council was meeting as the Lake Oswego Redevelopment
Agency that evening.
5. WORK SESSION
5.1 Comprehensive Plan Update (PP 10-0007). Review Comprehensive Plan update
process, Fall 2011-Spring 2013 Schedule and Action Areas and Products.
Mr. Sin and Ms. Weigel updated the Commission. They reported that the City had
applied for a Department of Land Conservation and Development (DLCD) grant and the
first community summit was to be held on November 3. They indicated they would
convey the Commissioners’ feedback to the Citizen Advisory Committee (CAC) at its
next meeting. They were asking all the other boards and commissions for feedback as
well. They explained that the preferred scenario was the Hybrid Scenario which was
now called the 2035 Vision Plan. They reported that it was mapped on the 2035 Vision
Map and that the Plan and Map were primarily based on the existing Comprehensive
Plan and its existing designations but drew on the LOconomy scenario. They indicated
that the Map reflected the Metro 2040 plan’s concept of town centers and that Marylhurst
University and Mary’s Woods were on the map because they wanted to be considered
more a part of the City. They explained that the Map, the Vision and the sustainability
filter would be used in the next phases of the process. They reported that the map
reflected the following assumption: All future housing and employment growth can be
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accommodated within the existing Urban Services Boundary (USB). There was no need
to expand into the Stafford area for housing or employment purposes.
During the discussion Vice Chair Bhutani asked if the CAC had discussed whether the
market was such that West Lake Grove would really develop the way the City wanted it
to. Staff planned to use the DLCD grant to fund work that would help the City get a
better idea of market conditions there and whether that area could be a mixed use area.
Staff reported that trending information seemed to indicate that industrial employment
was declining. Mr. Sin asked the Commissioners to look at the Action Area Order and
Schedule and the Action Area topic summaries. He asked if it was okay to combine
topics and reduce the number of summits and he also questioned if the summaries were
understandable enough. He reported that staff was asking each board and commission
to tell them what the most important, highest level, policy questions the community
needed to answer were. Vice Chair Bhutani suggested staff ask the other City bodies
what other groups to involve in the process.
The Commissioners discussed staff’s suggestion to break workshop participants into
smaller discussion groups and ask them to answer a few high level policy questions.
Chair Gustafson agreed smaller groups might be more engaging. Vice Chair Bhutani
suggested that asking the entire group to go through an exercise might lead to more
meaningful discussions and be fun. Commissioner Prager suggested using technology
to engage people. He stressed it was important to keep the questions very simple. He
stated that as an example, participants could be asked what it was about library services
that they liked or felt should be improved. Chair Gustafson noted the report indicated
that was what neighborhood chairs wanted as well. Staff related they were looking into
virtual workshops and using online surveys before and after workshops in order to
increase the amount of feedback from workshops. The group discussed consolidating
topics at summits. Chair Gustafson suggested addressing community culture at the first
summit; inspiring spaces and places and complete neighborhoods at the second
summit; and combining the remaining topics at a last summit. He opined that grouping
topics would bring people with different priorities together at the same summit. Vice
Chair Bhutani suggested grouping topics by category. She stated as an example Police,
Fire and the Library were all public amenities and housing, economic development and
transportation could be addressed together to help people understand the connections
and the tradeoffs.
The Commissioners suggested some things that were missing. Vice Chair Bhutani
would add a discussion of limited lake access and a discussion of library siting.
Commissioner Johnson advised that Luscher Farm should be addressed in the
Comprehensive Plan and the community should discuss controlling lake vistas and
views. Ms. Weigel reported that it had come out in the Parks master planning process
that people wanted more access to water. She would insert that information. The
Commissioners observed that the lake should be part of the discussion in most of the
action areas, that it was central to the City and impacted the community. Commissioner
Prager observed the document was focused on the Lake Oswego School District and
the budget, but missed the other educational aspects of the community, including private
and pre-schools. He indicated that people might choose to go to other places because
there was only half-day kindergarten in Lake Oswego. Vice Chair Bhutani suggested a
discussion of educational opportunities at all the universities around the city.
Commissioner Johnson advised the process was about land use planning, not social
planning and that some of the topics were not land use related. Commissioner Prager
questioned why Arts was a topic. Commissioner Johnson suggested it could be
connected to a land use policy to have a mixed use downtown. Commissioner Prager
observed the Greenway Trail was in the Recreation section when it could be in the
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Connected Community or Transportation sections. Staff clarified that the list of
recreation facility needs was a list, and that not all the needs were to be served by just
one facility, the list came from the Parks and Recreation plan.
Mr. Sin explained that the current process was intended to find out what people value as
much as fulfill the state mandate for periodic review of the Comprehensive Plan. It was
a paradigm shift. He said that back in 2007 the City had geared the process strictly to
prepare for periodic review (using the statewide planning goals as the framework) and
found it hard to engage the community. He said this time they started with a statement
about the vision and values of the community, they believed people could relate and
respond to that. Mr. Sin reported that the Comprehensive Plan would be based on what
the community wanted. He explained that if the community wanted to support schools,
using housing options to attract young families was one way of doing that. Mr. Boone
observed that the process was gathering up all the issues into a broad net. He advised
that goals could be tied to land use later on, after the community figured out what its
vision was and how it wanted to accomplish it. He indicated that non-land use matters
could be put into a companion document. Staff planned to return to provide another
update in October.
6. PUBLIC HEARING
6.1 Ordinance 2526, LU 08-0054 – Community Development Code – Policy Related
Housekeeping Amendments. Amendments to Chapter 50 for the purpose of clarifying
and updating various code provisions identified as having policy implications.
Chair Gustafson opened the public hearing and described the applicable procedure.
Each Commissioner had an opportunity to ask for discussion about particular provisions
he/she was concerned about. The Commissioners discussed the following provisions.
Section 50.05.012, Effect of Multiple Zone Designations
Staff proposed to resolve the issue of which zone applied on a split-zoned lot by
applying the commercial zone’s standards to the entire site, but also applying residential
density and residential Floor Area Ratio (FAR) requirements to the residential uses
there. Vice Chair Bhutani asked staff to explain how split zoning played out in mixed
use, would the structure look half commercial and half residential? Staff explained that
in cases where a building was sitting on two lots with different zoning, each part of the
building had to conform to the zone it was in. They related they had not yet encountered
a case where a building on a lot with split zoning was split vertically. They anticipated
that some buildings would have commercial on the ground and residential in the upper
floors, however, the code change might mean the upper floors would be stepped back.
Commissioner Johnson agreed it made sense to apply the residential standards to the
residential portions and commercial zone standards to everything else. His experience
had been that it was problematic to allow developers to pick and choose what zone they
would conform to in a mixed use zone. He indicated that the best long term solution was
to move away from having split zones.
Section 50.06.050 Yard Setbacks, Buffers (R-0, R-2, R-3 and R-5)
The Commissioners observed the R-2 Zone setback table indicated that an accessory
structure had to have a larger side setback than the primary structure. They indicated
the setback should be similar to that of the primary structure unless the type of use was
home occupation, or some other type of use that should be setback further. They
planned to consider the relationship of use to setback later.
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Section 50.06.055 Height of Structure
Vice Chair Bhutani wanted to know why staff proposed to establish a 24-foot specific
height limit for an accessory structure, rather than use the zone’s height limitation. She
also wanted to know the distinction between “lots with sloped topography” and “sloped
lots.” Staff explained they proposed the height limit to address the problem of
inconsistent provisions between zones and that some zones did not differentiate
between primary and accessory structure height. In that situation, if the zone also
allowed 6-foot height exceptions, the accessory structure could be 28 feet high, plus
another 6 feet. Mr. Boone recalled the second Infill effort specifically addressed steeply
sloped lots and applied different standards and design requirements and the Code
reorganization project would provide diagrams so people could tell which type of lot they
had.
Article 50.22 Exceptions to Site Development Standards and Special
Determinations/Section 50.22.020 One Year Exception to Height/Setback/Lot
Coverage Requirements for New Subdivision Lots
Staff proposed to remove a provision that applied when a residential building permit was
applied for within one year of the date of recordation of the final plat of the subdivision.
They explained that it required a review pursuant to the setbacks, height and lot
coverage standards in effect at the time of the application for the subdivision. Staff
indicated that if the Commissioners concluded the provision should be retained, they
would recommend it be changed so it also applied to partitions and the scope of review
be expanded to include all the standards, not just three standards. After a relatively
lengthy discussion the consensus was to agree to remove the provision.
During the discussion staff reported the provision was very rarely used, the situation had
only come up once that they could recall. Staff indicated that if the provision were
eliminated, the variance and Residential Infill Design Review (RID) processes were still
available. They explained that it made things confusing for applicants when it applied to
subdivisions, but not partitions and when it froze some standards, but not others. Staff
recalled that in recent years subdivisions typically came in as Planned Developments
(PDs) because of the open space requirements, they essentially created their own
zones. Mr. Boone posed the following situation: the applicant submitted an application
for a subdivision in 2011. The approval process took a year, to 2012. The developer
asked for an extension in 2013 to record the final plat because the market was not good.
Then they applied to extend it to 2014 because the economy was still bad. The project
might be finished in 2014 using 2011 regulations.
Chair Gustafson observed that it might not be used very often but the process was pretty
burdensome and the fact it typically took a year to get through the approval process was
not the applicants’ fault. He indicated that keeping the provision would be a safety net, it
would give the developer a year to finish up and it made sense to include all the
standards so the development would comply with all the rules that were in place when
the developer submitted the application. He said it was unfair to move the goal posts
halfway through a project and force the developer to use the variance or RID process.
Commissioner Johnson did not favor allowing a developer to continually extend a
project; they should have to start over. His experience was that subdivions typically took
a long time to process because of all the necessary surveys and technical work. He
noted the Infill effort had started because people got fed up with the approved
subdivisions they saw. Mr. Boone suggested the Commissioners consider the
neighbor’s expectation that a project would be built to current regulations. He clarified
that staff did not feel strongly about the proposed change, the real issues for them were
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that the provision only applied to subdivisions – not partitions; and that it only applied to
some zone standards and not the others.
Commissioner Prager explained that whenever the Commissioners agreed to change
code he assumed related changes were made to the rest of the code. Mr. Boone
recalled he was asked to codify the first Infill changes and that the Infill Task Force took
three years and focused on particular sections they were interested in and did not touch
others. When Commissioner Johnson asked, Mr. Boone related that staff leaned toward
eliminating the provision because it had only been used one time and subdivisions
typically came in as PDs and a PD allowed the developer to have smaller lots so there
was room for the required open space. Chair Gustafson saw no harm in keeping the
provision with the scope expanded to include all the standards.
Commissioner Johnson recalled his experience with developers who stretched their
projects out five to ten years. He did not feel sorry for them when they complained the
rules had been changed on them. Commissioner Prager was inclined to remove the
provision. He questioned why it should be in the code if the City was trying to simplify
the code, the provision was rarely used; it created confusion; and the only benefit had
been that it had been used in one case many years ago. Vice Chair Bhutani said she
was “on the fence” about what to do with the provision. She questioned how much
confusion it could create if it only affected a few people, that it might create a greater
level of comfort to keep it and that removing a few lines of code might not make the code
more specific. Ms. Andreades agreed with Commissioner Johnson that a variance was
for situations that did not come up very often, but she cautioned that for a Class 2
variance, an applicant had to prove a hardship, however the RID process was still
available. Commissioner Johnson observed that there were options to use some type of
process for exceptions.
Mr. Boone observed a consensus to take the provision out of the code after
Commissioner Johnson agreed with Commissioner Prager that it should be removed
and Chair Gustafson said he would agree with that.
Section 50.22.045 General Exceptions for Building Projections and Decks to
Setbacks (5) Equipment for public service, E.G., utility meters, transformers,
telephone switching equipment.
Commissioner Prager recalled that whenever he saw that kind of equipment placed in
ugly and awful locations he wondered if they could have been in a better place. He
wondered if those who put them there should have to demonstrate there was no other
location for them. Commissioner Johnson wanted to know if their size mattered and
whether a large public substation was exempted. Mr. Boone asked for more time for
staff to consider the matter. Ms. Andreades explained that staff typically encountered
applicant inability to tell them where they were going to put those kinds of big boxes in
commercial projects because the location is often driven by the utility companies. She
recalled the example of a project on Boones Ferry Road/Madrona. She asked the
applicant to bury the electrical box, but they put it along the roadway in front of the
building anyway. Before final occupancy, it was buried. Commissioner Prager recalled
seeing that happen in Tigard too, all of a sudden a metal box was sticking out. Staff was
told it had to be there because there was no other possible place for it to be.
Commissioner Johnson suggested the applicant should be required to demonstrate that.
Staff indicated that they would take this issue back to Development Review staff for
further discussion.
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Lot Depth
Ms. Andreades explained that she had previously written a memorandum on the lot
depth issue to respond to Commissioner Jones’ and Commissioner Johnson’s concerns.
Staff had proposed to eliminate the lot depth requirement. Commissioner Johnson had
suggested using the “circle method” that some other jurisdictions used. Her memo
showed how that method might apply in different zones. She indicated that if lot depth
were eliminated there would still be minimum lot width and minimum lot frontage
requirements.
Chair Gustafson and Mr. Boone recalled the Commission had previously reached
consensus to eliminate lot depth. Mr. Boone’s notes indicated it had been 3:2.
Commissioner Prager announced that he had been one of the two Commissioners in
favor of keeping lot depth, but after reading the staff report he had changed his mind and
was comfortable with what staff proposed. Mr. Boone noted that made it a 4:1
consensus. Commissioner Johnson cautioned that there were a lot of weirdly shaped
lots in the city.
Commissioner Johnson moved to continue LU 08-0054 to October 24, 2011.
Commissioner Prager seconded the motion and it passed 4:0. The Planning
Commission planned to start with pages 68-90; and then examine pages 98-156.
7. OTHER BUSINESS – PLANNING COMMISSION
7.1 Findings, Conclusions and Order
LU 11-0018-1767 – Community Development Code Amendments – Modifying the
Definition of Minor Public Facility
Commissioner Prager reported he should have declared that he was an employee of the
City of Tigard at the hearing. He indicated that he had discussed the matter with Mr.
Boone who had advised that there was no actual or potential conflict of interest. Mr.
Boone explained that was because the impact of the decision was not likely to actually
have any impact on Commissioner Prager’s salary because he was not compensated
that way.
Vice Chair Bhutani had submitted suggested edits. Chair Gustafson was not sure about
the first change, but he liked that the edits removed words like “regardless” and
“although” and made the findings more definitive, he said he would agree to the edits.
Commissioner Johnson announced that he could not support the findings or the
conclusions because he had not agreed with them from the start. Vice Chair Bhutani
suggested a final wording change to the effect that the City was exempting itself from
complying with standards and staff made that correction on the final draft.
Commissioner Prager moved to approve LU 11-0018-1767 Findings, Conclusions and
Order as amended by Vice Chair Bhutani. Vice Chair Bhutani seconded the motion and
it passed 3:1. Commissioner Johnson voted against.
8. OTHER BUSINESS – COMMISSION FOR CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT
None.
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9. SCHEDULE REVIEW
Ms. Andreades announced that the next meeting was scheduled for October 10 and the
Commissioners were to meet early for a “check in” with Sue Diciple prior to the meeting.
She recalled they had continued LU 08-0054 to October 24. Staff planned to hold an
open house at some point in that process. Commissioner Johnson announced the
Council was going to hold a study session on urbanization of Stafford on October 11 and
he planned to attend. Ms. Andreades explained that in November the Planning
Commission was to meet jointly with the Council to discuss Clarion’s work on the code
reorganization and they would also be presented with the draft parks system master
plan. She clarified that she did not think the Planning Commission would be asked to
make a recommendation regarding the plan. Commissioner Johnson explained he had
an issue with that because it was land use related.
10. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business Chair Gustafson adjourned the meeting at 8:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Iris McCaleb /s/
Iris McCaleb
Administrative Support