Approved Minutes - 2008-02-110
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City of Llake Oswego
101anning Commission and
Commission for Citizen Involmement
Minul es FPO,,
FeUtuary 11, 21008
V:icie Chair Julia. Gllimon ciad;leid thea Nanning Commission and Commimior.i fbri Citizen
Invcalveament maeating of Manday, HeabruarM 11, 200EI to oidelr at a 1pprax:imaately 6:00 p;m.
in thea Council Clhamlbelrs oflCity Hall, at 38(1 "A" Avenue, Lakes Csweigo, Oregon.
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Murribuis present beaide:i Vlica Cbairi Glisson wew Commissioners Adrianne Briockman,
Philip Steawe and Aaison Webster. Chair Clallini Cocipear and Clcammiissioners Mary BetH
Caffery and Scotll Siegel weirs eimiwsed.
Siaff preiseim wierie Denni:i Bgnear, Long Range Planning Manager; Saral; Seldeini;
Nedghlborhlood Planneui; Laura Weaigea, Nuighlbarhood P1annen, 13vian Hoone; Deiptiq City
Attorrney and Iri.i Treinean, Administratime Support.
III. CITIZBN C C MMENT
Nona.
N. MINUTES
Comm:isaioneui Wiebsiem mcived to_aipprove.tha MinWe:i oflJanuary 14-2008. Vicie Chair
Clisason seconded tHc motion. Sincia a majoriiq of Commissicinars aligibla to viota ori thea
minuie,i wierie not priesent, the Commissicinears Held an interim vote with the final mote to
oaaur al the next Alanninig Commission meeting. THe interim vote results were thait
Comimiissioicin Wlebsatun and Vice Chair Glisson voted to-appmea the minutest and
C ommiiss ioncr i Br ockman and Sltevmarl recau sed.
A CCMM1SSION AOM CITIAEN INVOIIVEMENT
The Planning Commission mai as the Commission for Clitizean Inivolvelment (CICI) lo
discius:a aitizanl inivolveament guidelinie:i, neighboihlood asmaiall ions, ciommunicaiion tools
and support.
Dennis11
Egnler, Laing Rdnge, Planning Manager; and 51arsib Slelden and Laura
Weigel, Naighliarhood Planners, preaseanted the staff) repart. Thay reaommenided
reducing the four ciumml alassifications of nieigHbonhood as;aociiations to Mio:
"Mecognizad Neighborhood" and "otbleri NeughtiorHood." slay neapartead that Skyllands
Community Planning Organization (CPIC; Was initeareastad ire. worklinig toward City
City of Lakes Clswcgo Plannin€ Commission
Minuleis afRibruar)l 11, HOU
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recognition. Thley reported that ,arra rraambens of thle Palisaadeas Neaighlborhood
Amociation wantetd to splill thall .association ir.ito two smaller assaacaiations. They indicated
teat thlene was no established pnocaeass fon doing ao. is
Staff reported that neighborwanted to krlavu i f they] were allowed to vote b y proxy].
Staff Isaid the Clitizein Involvemeanil Guidelines did not addiess that, and sarrla peoples weirs
caoncaerned that peaaple voting bM proxy] would not be as informed as membensa whlo
participated in the meeating and volled. Mr. Boone advised that eaahl neaighlorHood
association was a separale :legal eintity and blow a neighborhload associalior.i governed
itself w9s not u:iva]lyl a Cit}{ matteir, eaxcaept thlat the City did want assurancea thall each]
neaighbarhood saaliciled a 1 members' opiniori.,i abaull land use applications. Staff
ir..idicallead thal the City did ask eaahl neighborhood association to establish some procaeadurea
fon elections.
Staff I reported that ;come active associations wanted thea City lo ,iupport mcrea than the two
mailings per yleaar thea Clity provided foir theam. Staff caautioned that it would nequine miorea
staff) time than was aurreanillyl budgeated, so anothler alternative mighil ba 11(a givea thea
associations funds to use fon that purpose. Tlhleyl reported that same, associations did nail
agree with the City's pnacalicEa oflneviewing eaachl newslattear to ensure thea information was
accusal a. They asked if swffl should simply] mail each nowsletllen with a `'disclaimer"
prinled on it that specified the neighlbonblood was re;aponsible fon its contenll. Staff]
pnoposaead waM,,i to improve seniaea ta. rie:ighbonblocad associations, including making thea
City] web.tdte more eafftactrvea and eaasyl fon them lo. wi a; offering quarterly outreach
wonkshlopsa ftr neighborhood associations; disatributing a quarterly r.iewsleatlen with tip;,
from staff and update, on rie:ighbonblood planning activities; and creating a'"neiahbonhood
association" option on Listservi fon distrlbutir.ia neaighlborhood planning now
electraniaallyj.
M. Egrlan advised the Clity had morae and smalleart nei'ghbonflood associations than
tyflicallM found in tether jurisdicalions. He cautionead that all .,iarriea point an assacuaiatkin
might becomea too ,mall to be wry effective. Mn. Boone, stressed that the City, was
primarily conceamead with eni:auring that each associiation gathuread opiniomi about
leagi:ilative and land usea matiens fiom all its members and repcartead both majcirity and
minority vieawsa. Staff clarified that thea City roquired each] association to adopt an offuaial
pnocedunea fbr elecationisa, but allowed eaahl neighbonhlood to determine vuhlat that procedure
was to b ea.
During de quesationirig peiriod, staff neportead that thea City hlad twetr.ity .neighbotflaod
aswaiablons. They sugacnied that if thea Comms ssiorien;a ag#ied thle City ;ihould a lova a
neighborhood association to split, the same pnoceadurea and ariteria could be useid for that
as was used 11ca form a neva assoaiallior.i. Commissaionew Brockman absaervied that thlene
weave 20 neighborhood associations, but only 118 persons ir.i the audiences..
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Puibbic Tesfimor}
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Wad, submiitteid a document that duscribead how the Association was organi2ied; what
thley wearea working on, and flaw they were trying to inviolviei 'all F alisades Naighborhood
Asasociationi (FNA) membears.' She sand the asaoaiation's large ,,iin was a beanefiit beacause
it was wall-organizead, einjay ad a flange pool of poteritial uoluntecirsi and had it l board
miumbers and 12 areia managers who were Working on their weabsitea, loaal projects issueis
and member inviolvicamient. She reaportead PNA meaatings ware typically well attended and
the association was doing a good job of readhing its members. Ms. Monicrieiff said they
werea caurruntly working on an emergeanay ruspomiei plan sustainability, a local park, and
the nielghlborhlaod plan. She relaled that a vendor had cafl areid to pubaish thea PNA.
neawsiletller beciausea 111a association was big enough the publiAleir could anticipate
sufficient advertising reveanue. She said the Associations planned to focus on betller
communication.
Mark_Easiley, l 921_ Woodland _Terraacie, a Aali adesi. NcighHonhood Association A rea
Reoresentallive indicaatud'he did not support ;splitting thea PNA. He ,iuggeastead thea City
help thea association with autreaach by hositing and financially supporting a weabsiite lhat all
City neighborhoods could use. He predialed the result woulld be a highear levell of
partieaipatican and it would fauilitate "'quick asurveays. He ncaled that people could cahocase
to "op1 yin" to receiving communications via email, instead cif Iregular mail.
® indicaated that ,,,iha favored ,ipllitting the associiaticin in a manner that would giviea two or
threea of thea arenas around publicly owneid land a stronger voices in what happened IMare.
She recallead lheiy had bean told years ago to wait until their neighborhocad plan wars
compllested beiforei disimisling a spl:il. She ears-plained that the plan curtently div:idud thea
PNA into "awas" and that would make it ciasier to Mcillitatea a split, She noted C ]d Town
only included 100 homes. She asked why Palisades NciighborHood.Assocsialioni had beacin
originally madei so larges. During the questioning Feriod, sahle explained that hear area did
not flael thea association gave enough weiighlt to thein op:inicin, and civcin beifore thea issues of
public -:land camel up, they bolievead they lead a communicaation problem with the rest of thea
assiocial ion. Shea :itresisied that it was time ftar the neighborhood to Er lit.
David R anthers. 17721 Overlook C ircles,y ice Chair of the Aalisades Neiahb erHood
Associate cin said ",,ihrink'ng" the PNA would not be a good thing, and it would seat a
dangerous precedent. He notead PNA sizea was the reaascin Ilia newsleatter veandor was ablle
to antiaipatu eanicaugh advear ising reaueniue thal they could offtar the FNA that service at no
cost to the as.,icaaiatican. Ha argued that residents who l:ivead farlhler away from lhlea acHool
wearea aIilll initureastead in and impaaled by its uses. Ha indiciated the solution 10 thea perceived
communicalion problem was to di.,iousE miumber diffbtsenicels it an open fcaruma, and the
view PNA board was doing that. He said meeatingsa typically draw civielr I(KI members. He
said aftear the'last vales on a land urea isisue (thea result was 90 in famor and 13 against) the
board issuead both a majon:ityl and a minority statement.
City oflLake Clswega Planning] Coriimiss;'cm
M' I s cal FEbruiay l 1,:ICIOFI Pagf 3 cif 1 ]
Jay WoodwortH, 2070 Ridge WintelDm. e, explained that) a hill divided of tree Plalisadeas
Neighborhood A sscacaiallion inito east and west. He said hes resided oni thea "ciasl" aide
wherea residents werea challenged by thea prcasi oflincreasing traffic and safeq' issucis as
land around therm was developead. He sad a splint was justified beaaausea east sides residents
lJourreartly the "minoriq") shou]d Havel a grleatlelr voko irl developments that would affect
1l•le east, bull not the west side. Mi. Woodworth said Ile Had searvead oni the "`old" board,
and the "r.ieaw" board was riot f6stearir.i8 goodwill and frieandship because they wears
demanding and impractical. He said thall members should havea to atteand meetin8s to
discauss issueas and vote and proxy voting did not offiul sufficieant oppartuni f6111 hat..
H cm (aawners Associationredayead questionis posead by thein ri geanearal manager and
theairi board. He said Ile was President of We Summit at Mountain Park, whicirl vias
cane) of a numbear of smallem hlomeownem associatians within trea laijain Mauntairi Aarkl
BlomeowraiisMsoclatiorii Hle asked the Cityta clarify trea status and nelalior.ishfp oflthea
large and small associations. Staff) clariified that thea :leaaal and finiancial nealationiship of thea
smaller and large association: and blow tHey addressed lcacial issues and surnipublica
cacammor.i areas was not a Commission for Chimp Irivolvemeanl matUen, and the Clity'a
interest was to €insure that all thea neighborbloods and Homeowrears assoc:iationis
sufficiar.itly eanga8ead tHeir members before they took). a positian rani land use miattears being
clonsideread by the I lanninig Dlepartni or b} the Pllanhing Commissican, They advis€ad
that Maur ini AaAl Ilad a tln quea staltus ini thea City system as a Homieaowners association -
ri neighborhood wisociation but thenen waT a ;tep:a outlinead ini thea Citizear.i Involvement
Guidelineas that Mountain Park could chose to follow if it decided to become an officaial
Cit} nieighbothood asasociatican too.
Becky S al shlurg, 17986. _ S t. Clair Drive. who Had serine d on the Palisades
NeigHhorHucad Associiation, Ncaightlanhood Plan _Committee reaportead that the
eonun ittti a members Bad recogniaead that beaciain a the asscacaiatican was vary large and
dividend by CookIs Buttes; reasideants who livcld on thea slide of Cooks Rutile that was'lesas
challenged by neivtia develaprrort, werea less mcalivatead by common intearests and were less
likely tca attenid mecitinig;a. She iiecalled they had inteandead to recwmrneanid splitting the
ANA beafkarea the new board was eleacated, but after that the suggeojor.i was set aside. She
questioned % lether an email suneypnoceass could be estab:lishead that would eansiure broad
enough outreaall.
Cheryl Uchida, 15190 Quarry Road,_. _Secretary/Treasurer of the Waluga
Neighborhood Association, wondered if a few neaighbcmhoods - neagcatiating togethear -
could neagotiatEa a lower printing coal for neawsletllers than the City, reportead cosat. SHe
stressed volunteaers in the Waluga Neighboncacid made an anaarrraus eii to keep the
m tail i n8 list updated, publ i Ac ld two, new sl ettai s a year, and passed out informati canal
flyeria. She added lhay werie " tliread." Shea doubled an email -basad commun:icaation proceassa
would wcark well in her nciighlbarbood wheme many people cither did not awn a cicarrlputem
cin did riot access their email regularly. She reacalled them hlad bean tini %blen City staff
wari the assoaialiora tc edit thea aoritent of a draft neawslettem, but thle association had
insistead c n no cillange. She rciporl edit took) two trips to City Hla 111 o put out a riewsleatter.
City of Lakes Csweiga Fllanning Cammissican
Wit teas of February 1 I , 21008 Puget 4 at 11
She r sported the association currently blad an upldated trailing list with over 500
addressie.% including addiie;ises of bwdr.ie:is piopearty tenants who did r.ical live :in thea
® neaighborhlood Sha thanked Planning Dlepartmanit staff for hlelping Waluga wiilh their
neaw., letteua. Shea reported that a plait oflthe Waluga r.laighboncciod along Waluga Drive had
previously split off and joined the Llake Aonesal NEaighbarhood after they differed with the
neast of the Waluga NaiOborhood Associiatican nagardin8 traffic cialm:ing on Quarry Reaad
and A:Ibearfsoni'sa developmeanil. Shle recalled her neighborhood Had initiallycahlalloniged the
split, but subsequenitly deeaided to lel them make the change. Sha s id the Wal uga
Ne:ighbonhood A ssociiallion had learned over time that it was miost effecitivea to join
logethlen wills other adjacent as;aociiations to fund common ground on issuesa befbne they
look a positican on them, becaausfa them was strangth in numbers.
During the questioning period, Commimionan Brockman sugge.,ded adding a
neighborhood section to Bach monRhly issue of Ballo LIO! to promote outreacih and neaducie
the cost to r.iaighlborhood& Ms. Ulchida said :aha would discum thall with Hear board, and
she sugge.ated the C lity also asld Lake C swego N sigh boncaod Action C foal iti cin (L C NA C I' .
Wf eni Commissioner Brockman askad if the CCI should be a ,iearlarata body r.iol the
Planning Commission acit:ng as CC] - Ms. Uchida. cion firmed thall was flan plersaonal
opinion. When Commissioner Brockman asked wkly there w0he not micire nepnesenteltives
frorn associiations presenil at the CICI meeting, Ms. Uchida said it was likely not due to
aplathy bul because wonkinig people warited ilea spend available time with ilhein families and
felt they cioud hely on thein neighborhood veptesienitatives. Cthens present neciallad that
oris of the Clity. ,i neighboAlood asasociat:ions Had ,icihaduled thein own mieeling that
® evening, and somie presanl splecaulated that Llake •Grove and Bake Aorest members might
be lified aflen spending so much time at meatingsa on tha Village Center F ]an.
Mike Hall. 2080 Ridge Pointe Drive, Palisades Neiahborhood Association Area 11
Reapreasentatime, arguled that nio matter blow =call a nieighboAlood was, thane would be
diversity of oplinioni, to that was not a sufficiienit reason to ;split the association. He siaid
the now board was more active. They had been working blard since they had been eleacited
in Jluly, and they just needed to" fosaten diialogule that wcauld' enicomage tole online
nieighbonHood to trust each other and world together. Ha said thay all wane impacited to
somie exllent by whall happened at publici facaiihilies in the neighborhood.
Discwssioni
Staff asked ifl the Commissioniens wanted to recommand a prnocessa for !splitting a
neighborhood association and incorporate it,inito the Commission for Citizen Involvement
gulidealines. Commissioner Webmern wanted to know the cincaurristancie;a under which tha
Palisacl as Neighbonblood Asisociation boundary was oriigi'nally established, and what hac
cahanged sincia then. She suggested that if a neighborhood split were pnoplosed, the
poteanlia now nuiebonhood should final blave to maut Cityl crileriia for forming a
neighborhood and than be ,iupport(id by majoriiq voile of the ar.itine original misociiat:ion.
Commissioner Brockman agraud there should be a prociess and the ci iteria should be meal
first — whether the gnoupl wanted to split, on modify boundaries. Haweven, ;she suggesiled
the appll:iciation than be reviewed and aplproved by a City hearngsa body, ini;atead cafIby an
associalion vote, because soma areas, lilde her own, wave so diver;ie that they miigfk be
C ity cif Lal e OsAcEp Planning C ammissicin
Minutes cif F et ruarM 'I 1, 20CI8 Hage ` (ifl l ]
able to agneaea to asld foci reacognit:ican, but would likle:ly not be abler to agree on a specific
plan. Commissioner Steawart suggeastead the praciem sHould also ad dreass whlat was
necemMI to mar8a pail of a neighbothlcaod with an adjaceanl neighborhood. Mn. Egneri0
agreead to fhshican criteria and a nedatud piiocess foci Planning Clormission examination.
Her ant:icaipatead it would considers facatots sucH as w1lether the areia was dividend by a miajoir
streaet cfr lopagraphy; whatheri thara hlad begin a chlangea in circaumstancaesl; ori if thearea wase a
problem with rep imentatican. He advised thea City Cciuncil would make the final
detearmainatican cafl whetheni ori not to reacaognize the neighborhood. Mice Clhaiii Clisson
suggestead cionsidering whlat ciommon interests held the area logathen, Commissioner
Webster suggested leaning taward keaeping a neaighborhood together unless there was a
good iieason not loci, beaausea it might not be beaneficial to allow a ne:ighborhlood to gel too
srr a] 1. C thersa recal led that a developer had fbrmad Mountain Park and th at several others
re ighbothlocads had fbrmead to protecat themselveas fiom an adjaceanl business district.
They obsearvead shat Palisades would ba tremendously impactead by Stafford area
deve:lopmeanl. THey suggested every part of the Urban Growth Boundary (UGB) should
be in a neighbothaod.
The Commissionets discussead other parts of the staff raport. They geanenially ffavoread the
simrlifiiead neighborhood alass:iflciation system. They also indicaated they fell tl:at a
neighbophlocad that was inactivea shlould be allowed la remain "`dormant" until an issuea
deve:lopead that motivated thea membears to become more actives again. They suggested that
some neighborhoods that had been espeacaially acstive iiecefihly might want to give theaill
membears a respite fiom frUclueant meelings. Comm:issionem Brocakmlan neacaallead 1JONAC
hlad discussed "conatinuity frcableiiii" afteir compleale neva boar& wearea eleacated and lhle
previous, eaxiperiianieed, board merrbenis werea gone. Shea sauggeastead a ]cawing staggearead,
two-year; l ermsa mighlt kleeap some expanien ced board mean bears on the board after an
elcralon and mighl result in involving more membears in theaft associiation. dice Chaim
Glisson agreied that would fkastear continuity, while miring now and old opinions about
issues. Mii. ,E gneri suggeasl gad allowing a mix of cores and two-year terms.
Mn. Hoonca said the City caurreanlly tecluired annual elections, but il' was of la eaach
neighborhocad to decaicl a thea terms ofllhlein board members. He advisead thal if tha Planning
Commissican decided the Clity should mandate sUggered terms, thea Commissicanears
aneeded to provide thea taticanale.Alowing why that requireament wase lildealy to reasult in
betteni repnesentalion. He iie teuaated thlat lha City's inlenesat was ensuring that
neigHboAlocid boards fulfillead their pesponslibility tca submit all positions, including
minority positions, to thea City during legislative and land uses hlear:ings. He observed that
some CICI Cuidalines 'encaounagd' inslead of mandate. When askled, he alarifiead that a
neigHbothacad ciould exist outside ofIClity reacaogmjtion, tut tecognition gave them sutus to
testify as a neighbothaod and :incacarporatea theist plan into the Comprehensive Plana.
Commissioner Brockman moved to-. reacaommend that the City add a cariiterion fop
neaighlboncaod reacagniition that reaquiyed an asacaciiatican to have _twa-yeaar-minimum,
staggaiied terms for membears. of.. their board cafl dipectars. Commisls:ioner. Webslem
secaandead thea motion and dimiussaion followed. dice Chair Glisson obxr-vied that would
nal preavant a board member from vaciating his/her position in maid-tearm. CommAsioneua
Brockman clarified the cihange would set a minimum two-year termi, but would. allow
City oflLake Oswe€10 Planning C ammissican
Minutes of Fetr=3 11, 210(8 Paagei 6 of 1 1
threie-year terms, iifI a ne:ighborhlocid warted that. Clommissioner Steawarl suggested thal
one-yeaar terms might make it eiasier to convince people to commit to survei an a board,
® and suggested allowing a board member to auilarnaticiatly extend his/her one-year termi for
one more year. Mr; Egner suggestead requiriing that a speciific peneeintage of board
positions ciarry over 1a thea naxt yeiar. Commissiiciner Brockman agreaed that wcauld halp
ensure continuity of gained knowledge and perhaps gilleatem partiiciipaticin. Commis.:iionem
Webster sauggeastead requiring one-year terms but reciammienidinig that teirms be staggenied so
thea entire board and its agenda did not change aftear an elecition. Vice Chair Glimoni
suggesaled :ipeaciifyring thal at ',least 90% of board positiomi were 10 bee staggered.
Commissioner Bracekman witdd new her motion:
Mises Chair Glisson moved to reacommend to thea City Councai'l that CCI] Cuidalineas bel
cahanlaed to reacommend thal neiishborhlood association boards esetab'lish a minimum of
two-veam_terrris_of[serviiaeon _their board of_direcitors_and schledule.e]action s so that at lleaast
30% of board positicins werea staggered turms. Commissioner Brockman metonded the
motion and it passed 4.;0.
The Commissiiciners then discussed thea isesue of proxy voting. Commissioneni Brcacakman
did not fhvclr allowing proxy voting because she worried that it would deistalbiliiae the
r.ie.ighboiihood planning proceass if some mearnbenis werea allowed to votes against a plan the
planning commitilee had worked hard on and reached conseansus ori. She said riot
allcawinig proxy voting would mean that members would have 10 atilanid meeetingsi and
learn the phos, and cions beiftirei thay voted on issues. Commissioner W absteni observied
® that peacaple led busy livese with schedukis ilhait might cionf]ict with neaighbcarhood meaeating
sacihodulese, and they were used to voting by mail) in other eilections. She said it would be
fain to allow them to vote by alternative mieiaami if they ciould not atteand.a specific meetinig.
Mr. Bgnear added if thea Commiissiionenis wanted to difftnientiate betweien allowing prcaxy
voting in electicans and votese regarding a land use position. Commissioner W absler was
not sure proxies should bei ciountead in land use votes; dice Chair Glisson also was not
sures. She agileed with tesetimoniy that arrai] could be `°abumid," and perhaps sahoulld not be
used in voting, but she said it was a goad mcethod of commiuniciaticin. She recialllead that
neighborhood representatives can thea cacimmiitteie that chafteid the Lake Groves Vl:illagci
Centear Plan usead emaiil as onie mieawi of communicoatifig with their constituents, but many
busey naighbors trusteed their repremir,itative to bei thein voice and vote on the committee,
and reapreiscant thlem at land use and prea-arTIl ication meeatings. C lommi ss ionier Steawart
stressed the CICI should enuouragei people to atteric neighborhlocid meetings if they wanted1 a vote ori the issues. C lommi ssiorier Brcac kman observied that ii f l thay ceoul d not attend,
they could send a letilem, or ar.calhleni repreeseeritativee to share their position, inisilead. Vlicti
CHair Glisson iinVIed publia communis regarding proxy voting.
Holl Barman, 1445 Oak Terrace, said hes was likle many others and had obligations that
sometimes conflicted with the neighborhood meeting sahadule. He Held they shlcauld riot
bei diseeenifranichliseeed because they caciulld riot attend a meet ng. Hee reported that it was
typical fbr 80% of Lake Cswego Corporation meamiber votes to be by prox-M. He asked
® why on: y the 20% present in a meeting room shlould be al'Iowed 11 make the deicision. He
City of Laka Osmigio Planning Clommissien
Minului, cfFeibruar5l 11, 2(a8 Aagiui i of 11
addeid teat in a dcimiacmacy, all were allowed to votes, no matllet what thein leiveil of
knowledge, and it was the reisplonsibility afltte neighborhlood associalion to try harden to
inform them. He said peoplei trusted their miarei-infarrrad friends to guides and reipliosent 41
lheim in good faith at Ilde Csweigo Clorporation meietings. He aciknow] edged the proxy
system ciould plalent;ially bei abuseid, but He worried that not allowing_ proxy voting would
result in increased apathy, beciausci peiople would wondeir why they shauld bother to pay
attenl i on.
Mice Chain Glisson agreed that a proxy voting system could be abu.,ad uniass there wa,
also a good communication system in place that karlt members well inforfred and gavel
them Inst in their representatives. She suggested the Blaming Commission ciould
recommend Waving the decision up to each neighborhood, on neiaommend conditions that
had to be in place before a neighbonHood adopted a plroxy system.
Ms. Moncriefl explained that aven'thaugh Palisades Neighbonhload Assaciiation bylaws
allowed plroxy voting, the association Had never conducted an electian or made a land use
decision using plraxy vales. All those decisions Had been madel by Hand votei at meetings.
Stile saiid the members understood that. SIha said they also used other means to inforrr.
member:, but they did not uses alectroda miaans to conduct surveys or make duclisions.
Cthen neighborhlood representatives stremd that it was important for a neighborhlood to
makes strong affarls to inforrr and involve members in the planning proms, but when.
peoples ciould nal atteind meetings they should still be able to parliciipate in voting. One
stressed that he often voted by proxy in inve;lment-entity-related duaisions. The
maprasent.8tives said alectlanic means was gaod for distriibuling information, but not for
surveys on voting, beciausa some people ciould not use it. Thley added that proxy vatars
were nal neciessarily uninformed votevs.
Commis,ionan Brockman said stile could agreei to nal plrohibitproxy voting if
neighbonHoods wanted it. She suggesled tracking how well it worked. Palisades
Neighborhood Association reppeseritatives cilaefied'that they had never Had to uses proxy
votes to decide a vote because theiii meetings were typically very well attended and
counting proxy voters — even if they all voted the samei way -would nal have charged the
outcomes. They explained that they tnled to inform al 1 members; they dooun. anted every
action; and they had asked the Clity to assign neighborhood -planning staff to eni,ura that.
everything was done fairly. Commissi oneln Brockman stressed that in C ragon's locia l and
national eleationis everyone was mauled a balled, and a neighlbonhood should follow that
exarr.. pl e.
C ammis, ionem Wlebli ten suggested llhle C ammissiionens table the disicuission, takle no
action to cihange Commission for Citizen Involvement Guidelines, and allow eaicihl
in eighblorHood to deiciid a wHetHer May wan ted to allow p roxy vating, Commission er
Bnockniain suggested the City monitor How well proxy voting workled.
Thle Commissionena them discusseid the nuwslettler issuei. Clommiissionen Wubstar recalled
that al vendor Had offered to plublisH the Palisadea Neighborhood Association nlewslutlen
because they had a large m ie mben, hip. She :aid such an arrangeme nl mighl not ba offered
to smaller rye ighbonhloods. Nuclei Chlaan G]isson reclalleld hearing thart eimail. communiciationi
C it3 aft Lek a Osw E i8o P1 ann in€i C ommi ssicin
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would not woidd fdr some people. Commissiioner Braak:man askled if each neigHboAload
could Havel a seclion in. Bello LIO! each month_. Staff obsieirwid that publicalion was
® generally used as the City Administrator's means of informing the public, but they
offezned to talkl with Public Affairs staff) about adding a new seiat:ion fbn neighbofflood
announcements. Clammiissionezn Webster suggested adding a di.ialaiimier that each
ne:ighbofflood aantralled the comemil oft ills mictian. Commis.lionlerl Brcick:man suggeisteid
thei naighbcinhood sectian could refezr ineadeirs ilei the ne:ighbofflood weibsita, oii somie other
plane to gel more informatian. Clammiissionen Weibsteir sand if space waiie an issue,
neighborhoods could be given Hello Z&i space on a rotating basis that was coordiniateid
with them micieting sahai ule.
CommisMonein Bziock:man suggested ilhat sitafflwikl each neighborhaad to fashion theiin own
camimiuniaaticin strategy. Thai staff report deiscribed an apilion to simply give
neiighbonHood a sisoc:iationisi mianey to gjcind cin ciammunication aetivitieis; and allow theimi
la punahasei what they) neeideid themselves. However, sllaff zieaomrr.enided agaiinst this
option beiaausa there was a cont ,iavirigs la the-neighbonhloods in Having the City pnov:idei
copyir. pmailinig .ximices, the City would bei prnovidinig neighboibood mailing lists thal
er.iaompa.is thle entirei association, and staff) would t e infarmad of nie:ighboziio&
associalion activities published :in the newsleiltezns. Staff clarified tHat the otfler aplion
was that eacih neigHborhood association would be given a spec:ifia bud tit and.the City]
would, continue assiisting theirn witt. tl:a printing and mailing. Commisisianeir Broakman
a0leed ilhei City should leit neighboziioods deiterm;inei the ways r ilhay wanted to
aommunicale and g:ivei theim ilhei marry fbzn it, as long asi ilheiii+ praciesis was desiigned to
reach all membeirs. Sloe iiecalled ;il was typical now fdr onganiaat:ions to offer thein
® membens thle abillity to opt to znecialve edectrcinia communication instead of `°sinail mail."
Stelffl said tHey were deiveiloping training mateirials to use in neighboAlocid outneiachl
workshops, and would suggest that.
Vice CHair GIhison advised haat it was ;imparWt to identify the authors of nawsletllen
articles because the membens slaaulld be able to see whose opinion it wa-si Staff cionfirmed
they) ware no l angar ziequiring that neiws intens be editai for cionl enit accuracy, but
pravi dead suggested ed:i l s foii the nei ghbonHoW s cansideiv i on and also iiequizned it heim to
include the eiditor's name and cantalct informiat:icin. They said tHey could also require lhlat
individual authonsi be ideritificid.
The nuiebonhood ziepziesenitatives indicalled than it was important to fnd a waM to protect
individual privacy when ria ghborhoods developed an email databasei, Sia somelone would
not use it to spazri membemsr on fdr somei otHen kind of abuse. Thant wportad than a resident
who was a policeman had abjected to thei r,ieighlboAlaad Weping a database that
conneclad His email address with his name and physiicial address They wondered if it
waulld be batten if tHei City maintaineid the email siy.item and cantrolled email privacy.
Staff advised thm amauils fiom thea City wezie public records, but thenal weir ways to seind
eimia lsr I lat laid all the cid em neiaipients' email addrasse.i fiom each individual reicipient,
and people novo had the ability to usei a "thriow-away" email addreiss to recieive mailings.
Comm:isisiioneni Weit stem suggesteid giving each neighboAload associiaticin thein own link
® fiom thle City webs;il e, and making wabs;ite content "'plri ntalble," so maim t eros wtla opteid
out oft"`snail mail" cauld easily prinit a copy.
C ity of Lakes Osweiga Alarming Cammission
Mimteis oflFebruary 1:1, 30.M Page 9 oft 1:1
Vices Cheiir Glisson said it maids senses fon the Planning Department %eb:ute to tell people
whlere they ciaulld go to gest neighbanhood information. She also liked the idea ofloutreaahl
workshlopls. W. Egnen said they %ould ask thea Information Teahriology (IT) stdff what
would be involved in Having thea City host individual neighborhloads' websites. Ms.
Se:ldein alarifieid thlat thea Ciq's ricighbonhood association websites provided a )link to
individual r.eigblborhaod associaitions and thlat they plrefenied not getiling involved with
managing emiai:l lista. Shai ,iaid thea Clity wanted the neighbo4laod associations to use the
web as a ;iourcia for information and a taol for reaching out to thein neighbors. That' said
t hley allready planned lo seind a staff email new sill etteir to all nai gh bonhoods thait contained
ir.frirmiaaion and "tirls." Theiy pairted out that Comm:is:iioneni Siegel had emailed a
suggestion to ;iand out a supplemental survey to aLl neighborhoods thall would help)
dettirmine d a eifftictivemess off the CCII program, and Ile had not specified %blat means
should be err ipl oyed to da that.
One off thei Pali.,iaidei.i Neighbonblood Associiat:ion repnesentaltives said he Had more in
common geographically, politically, and with regard to zoning and development
concerns, with) lakefrant owneirs, and hes suggested a `°lakefrcinf' neighborhood nsociat:ion
sho4l d be formed lo in cll ude rpopewties Il aciated within two blocks of the lake. He necal led
that Count* Club residents wanted a height nestricdion to prevent tall) hames in thein area,
but that ;limit did riot woAl %till along North Shone slopes. He added that North Shone
owneirs weine move comfortable with very ,irral'l side yard setbacks, bacawie they wanted
more spaici=i bacik)jards. Vica Chair .Glisson closed the CC] discussian. Staff) was to
proplosti changes and draft an update to thle CCI Guidelline.,i fofi futurle CICI consideration.
VI: PLANNING COMM] 99ION - WORK 9HS91 OT
Can munitY UERIe1lloUment Cod c (CDC) Amend m emtsi _(PA .08,0402)
Upldate on pinop aced text amendments ]la the Lake Oswtigo Code (LC CI, Chapter 90
(Community Development Code) foil clarifying, aarnecting and updating seat ion s..
The Commissicme1s agreed to plastpone thhi dhiaussion to whein thley cuaulld sciihleidule morie
meeting times fiar it. Mr. Bgnitir empllaiineid the updallei ww so flange that staff had divided it
and would present it in three part,. Thle Clomrrissionens planneid to btigin con:udanatian off
thea updates by determining whichl were "'housekeeping" cis ange;i and which were
substantive changas that could Have more impact and required more publ:ia vatting.
Commi ssion en Brockman suggested staff also pnesenit them to LC NAC and aleirl the loco
ntiw:ipalpeln.. Vice Clhlaiin Clisson suggested thleiy also alert the r.eighlborhoods that the Cad€i
updating prioces.,i had beigun. Staff invited each Clommiasioner to highlight :items they
saw m potential issues for staff. Trey anticipated that same piiopased CDC update.,i
might conflicit Witt; pnoposeid Infill changes and if would be betteir to wait until thle final
dnafis of both proposals wc.wa ready before hlcilding Heariir.gs.
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VII. A DJOURNMENI'II
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Thlere buinig no furthers busines.,i beifone thea F lanninig Commission, Viciei Chlaiir C lisisoni
adjourned thti mi ming at appnoximalely 81:50 p.rr.
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