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LORAC PAC Meeting 6 Summary FINAL_211026LAKE OSWEGO RECREATION AND AQUATICS CENTER PROJECT ADVISORY COMMITTEE Lake Oswego PAC Meeting #6 Summary Page 1 MEETING 6 SUMMARY Date: October 26, 2021 Time: 4:00 – 6:00pm Place: Zoom Meeting Purpose: Schedule and design update, public art opportunities, exterior building design options. Outcomes: Update PAC; gather feedback on site options. Attendees PAC Attendees: Chris Duncan Sarah Ellison Natalie Gentry Sandy Intraversato Leasa Lowy Cassidy Miller Jahzeel Ormeno Cole Olsen John Wallin John Wendland Absent: Lainie Decker Aukai Ferguson Staff Attendees: Ivan Anderholm, City of Lake Oswego Megan Big John, City of Lake Oswego Bruce Powers, City of Lake Oswego Tony Vandenberg, City of Lake Oswego Jan Wirtz, City of Lake Oswego Erica Baggen, Scott Edwards Architecture Jennifer Marsicek, Scott Edwards Architecture Sid Scott, Scott Edwards Architecture Andra Zerbe, Scott Edwards Architecture Jeff Munro, City of Lake Oswego Kara Grothen, Scott Edwards Architecture Allison Brown, JLA Public Involvement Ariella Frishberg, JLA Public Involvement Welcome and General Updates Allison Brown, JLA Public Involvement, began the meeting. She reviewed Zoom tools and etiquette and reviewed the meeting agenda and purpose. The group reviewed the PAC Meeting 5 Summary. The summary was approved with no additional edits. Jennifer Marsicek, Scott Edwards Architecture, shared that the group would review the overall plans for the site, the incorporation of gender-neutral facilities, public art opportunities, and exterior design. Other current updates included: 2 • The large plan (Alternative 3) that the group selected went to City Council and has been moving forward. • The land use application will be moving forward at the end of November. • A neighborhood meeting and community meeting will also occur in November. • The project is in 50% design development, which is being priced and will move forward with the land use application. Project Updates and Discussion Jennifer Marsicek, Scott Edwards Architecture, began with a presentation on the conceptual site plan of the LORAC building. Changes since the previous plan: • Aquatics building, including minor changes to the recreation pool, has been simplified to a rectangular shape, which will save on costs. All pool amenities remain. o There will be spectator seating for both the Recreational and Competition pool. o The spa was disconnected from the toddler area due to a health department requirement. o The competition pool will have flexible spectator seating depending on the sport. o This will still maintain at least 15 feet of deck width surrounding the pool. o These changes added 1500 square feet to the building. • More outdoor space and privacy connected to the event rental space. • The men’s and women’s locker rooms are larger. • The main entry lobby is also bigger with seating and better visibility into the building from the golf course. • From the City Council plan, the building footprint has become 62,500 square feet. A member of the PAC asked to view the previous iteration of the plans. • Question: Did we lose any functionality, or is it just shifted around? o Answer: It’s just shifting it around. The restrooms were moved, but it ended up being a better location for them. There is still visibility through the building and the water area spaces are the same but rearranged. • Question: Are there sliding doors on the end of the entry area that opens out? o Answer: Yes, we have included glass and glass garage doors, so those could open into the covered area connecting to the outdoor spaces. Erica Baggen, Scott Edwards Architecture, discussed LQBTQ+ accessibility in the locker rooms. There will be multiple levels of privacy that people can choose from based on comfort level. • Level 1: Most open, with 5 open showers and changing rooms. • Level 2: There are 2 private showers in each gendered locker room, one of which is ADA accessible. • Level 3: Fully private restrooms and family changing rooms. They serve multiple user groups. Based on previous studies and feedback, it would require much more space to have fully private accommodations and people might take longer to move through them. Offering different levels of privacy is the most efficient method to ensure people have their needs met while maintaining accessibility. After speaking with an LGBTQ rights organization, it was determined that signage using the term “all gender” and “restroom” is preferred for individual areas as opposed to “gender-neutral” or indicating symbols depicting who may use the areas. 3 • Comment: City Hall has set up great restrooms and it may be advantageous to have consistent signage in the City. Schools also had a discussion surrounding restrooms when they opened the new middle school. Kids know what a single user restroom is and are focused on making it as neutral as possible. Would be good to make things consistent. o Jennifer answered: Yes, we did look at the City Hall, but it has all individual restrooms, which we don’t have space for. Their signs indicate “all gender” with an accessibility symbol, and signage for the LORAC could be consistent with that. • Q: There are individual areas in between the men’s and women’s locker room– what is that used for? o A: That is shower space, at the end of each group shower area there is a private area with a curtain. • Q: Is the signage going to indicate use for families? Sometimes when I’m in spaces I can’t tell if it’s a single stall or a space where I can bring my children. o A: None of the signage is finalized, but in previous projects we’ve had them called “family changing rooms.” We want to ensure that those are available to all user groups. • Q: I see some spaces that indicate “event rental space.” What spaces do you see that could be rented? o A: There are two rooms adjacent to the recreation pool. There may be others, but these specifically could be rented out. The designs include a room divider, which can make them one bigger, 800 square foot space.The other rental space will be the reconditioned clubhouse, which is about 2000 square feet. Overall, there will be 4 small rooms, or one medium size room, or one larger room available for rental. • Q: Does this retain the nursing area for parents? o A: Yes, and we’re now calling it the “respite room,” to avoid unnecessarily gendering that space as well. • Q: Did we adjust the building to the SW a little bit or is it in the same general location? o A: It’s basically in the same location, but we were able to pull back on the golf course side bar to give a little more space for the plaza. • Q: My understanding is that the public locker room will be closed off during competitive swim times, so does the orientation of the family areas change? Will there be extra walking? o A: One of the things we’re finding is that the primary users of the locker rooms are those who use the pools. There are a couple different options if the locker rooms are closed. There are still restrooms in the lobby and the family changes rooms available for use. Another option would be to close down near the cardio and weight room. Most people who come to use the cardio and weight area come dressed to do so, but it might be a minor thing and we could service them with a single use restroom if needed. The family changing rooms and locker rooms will mostly be people using pool facilities, so the design is pretty well balanced. We wouldn’t want to move them further from the pool. • Comment: Yes, I was just wondering if there would be other showers available in the building and wanted to see if there were other ways the building could be used during those times. Jennifer then discussed plans for public art in the site plan. Opportunities for art were indicated in numbers on the plans, and landscaping architects wanted a flowing concept throughout the facility. There will also be a 4 stormwater pool, which will always have plants and trees. Art opportunities inside the building were also indicated by numbers. Examples for murals can be found on slides on the project website. • Q: Is the Arts Council looking for input from us, or are they going to tell us (what they want)? o A: Our next step would be to give them these opportunities and then work with them. They might get an art advisory council, but we do advise for placement and possible type of art. • Comment: I would like this group to give some direction to the Arts Council and that we have a representative who is more reflective of the community as opposed to who is already on the council. They are great, but their focus might not be in line with this project. I don’t want to offend them, but I want to have the art reflective of this building. Thank you. • Q: So, are you looking for feedback as far as placement, or is this more informative? o A: This is informative, but we also want to hear your thoughts on this. We are proposing these sites to the Arts Council, so if you want something more, please let us know. • Q: And would each spot have art, or are these options for art placements? o A: These are options for placements. We have a limited budget and are looking into whether these are the right areas, or if PAC members think there are other areas which might enhance the project. The final decision may be contingent on how much money is left in the budget. • Comment: Locations 1 and 2 are critical because those are what everyone sees, so putting something nice there is important. Places such as 4 aren’t as visible. Having something where everyone sees it and maybe along the trail is the most important. o The group agreed with this comment. • Comment: I can see incorporating our HS Senior AP art, and maybe make one of those spots a rotating area, which would bring in more people from the community and be easy on the budget. It would be an honor for them to be displayed here in the community. Maybe one of the spots in the front. • Q: Do both high schools have the AP art program? o A: They do, and there are some phenomenal artists. I love that it would connect the community. • Comment: I would recommend staying away from murals, which can cause heartache later when they need to be updated or painted over. If you want a mural, don’t make it a permanent fixture to reduce emotions when it comes to changing them. Erica showed the PAC the examples of the building and landscape renderings in the MIRO board and explained how to use the comments and sticky notes. • Comment: We should have a site meeting to go through this once we’ve had time to review landscape and site design. • Comment: I’m happy to see the windows of the pool areas and the garage-style door openings. • Q: The idea to step down the roof height at the lobby is to not be so imposing to the existing clubhouse? Having tall ceilings in the lobby would be nice. o A: It’s partly that and partly to differentiate itself as its own space. The ceilings will be 14 ft so the lobby will still have some nice height. • Q: Is the plaza area going to be linked to the rental space in the clubhouse and will those be rentable space for events? 5 o A: Yes, it will be. The landscape designers are working on an area for events. The space outside of the existing clubhouse can be used by events at the clubhouse or it can be connected to the plaza space outside the new lobby for aquatic center events. The floor is slightly higher which will make it an interesting space with multiple uses and interconnectivity, depending on the event. • Q: How or where will people get driving range balls? o A: They can pick up tokens at the lobby or pick up at the automated machine. • Q: They can just go to the driving range and not be a part of traffic? o A: Yes. Erica showed examples of metal siding on the building with options for patterning and color and asked for comment: Option A: Randomized pattern with blue color balance of half. Option B: Series of neutral tones. One primary neutral with a smaller number of other neutrals. Option C: Majority blue with smaller percentage of randomized colors. Option D: Intricate randomized pattern with main neutral color and smaller accents. Option E: Solid color with accent colors at windows. Verbal comments and questions from the PAC included asking how the building would look from the street, staying away from a warehouse look by choosing colors that fit with the natural environment, discussion about getting semi-transparent panels to bring in more daylighting and how that would add to cost, keeping a timeless look so as not to date the building, considering how the patterns fit with adjacent structures, and interest in changing color palettes. There was also discussion on ways to break the building up into different exterior sections and what those materials and cost could be. The MIRO link would remain live for a week after the meeting so members could add additional comments. There was a majority preference for options A and C. The team will continue to develop the design based on these two options. Reference separate Appendix 2 for Miro presentation summary and comments. Allison Brown asked if the group felt that the designs shown were reflective of their feedback and the PAC agreed that the designs are reflective of community input. Erica Baggen, Scott Edwards Architecture, gave a brief overview of bleacher strategies for the recreation area. She explained that people wanted two options for seating and that the best option would be tip and roll aluminum bleachers, which would hold up to 300 spectators. She also showed configuration options and pricing for optimal seating. • Q: Was there a plan to have fixed bleachers at all? o A: Yes, that was the original plan, but we had not anticipated the need to have two sets of spectators. • Q: Is it a requirement to have them move around? Would that cost more? o A: The tip and roll bleachers help with cost. The stakeholder group wanted to retain deck space and wanted movable bleachers for that reason. Having two sets of permanent bleacher seating also has code implications (ex. adding more bathrooms). • Q: Is there a closet they get stored in? 6 o A: No, they would always be on the deck. • Q: Did we explore wall mountable bleachers that were retractable? o A: Yes, but research shows these kinds of bleachers are not made to withstand a natatorium environment. • Q: Where did the 300 spectators number come from? o A: That was given to us by the pool consultant team. Allison asked members to put any additional questions or comments about bleachers in the chat. Next Steps and Closing Allison thanked the PAC members and project team members for their participation in the meeting. She reminded them about the Neighborhood Association Meeting on November 2nd and the Community Meeting on November 10th. There will also be a pool stakeholder meeting on November 9th. Links to these meetings will be distributed and can also be found on the project website. Members were asked to help publicize by inviting neighbors and community members. The next PAC meeting will be in the new year. The Miro board will be open for another week, and comments can be added with follow up. PAC members and team members thanked one another and adjourned. Appendix 1: Zoom Chat Leasa Lowy: Can you make the plan any larger -thank you Leasa Lowy: on the screen Leasa Lowy: I am sorry I have to leave. My favorite outside is E. Allison Brown, she/her, JLA: Thanks, Leasa! Andra Zerbe to Hosts and panelists: https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_lo_5J2c=/?invite_link_id=2151271816 Kara Grothen: Kalwall? Sandy Intravasato: Are you going to send out a poll after the comment period? Sandy Intraversato: I’d like to see small sections of white Tony Vandenberg (LOSD): Translucent wall at a clearstory could be kalwal or cpi daylighting. maybe, but budget. Ivan Anderholm (City of LO): I have opinions on the colors that I'm keeping to myself, because I like orange and yellow Sandy Intraversato: I need to leave. Thank you for the opportunity to comment! Ariella Frishberg, she/her, JLA: You are invited to a Zoom webinar. When: Nov 10, 2021 06:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada) Topic: LORAC - Community Meeting #2 Please click the link below to join the webinar: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86296716512?pwd=SlFxdGdsbG9MZWsvblhvdFZhQU5vUT09 Passcode: 790391