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LORAC PAC Meeting 7 Summary 20220309 FINALLAKE OSWEGO RECREATION AND AQUATICS CENTER PROJECT ADVISORY COMMITTEE Lake Oswego PAC Meeting #7 Summary Page 1 MEETING 7 SUMMARY Date: March 9, 2022 Time: 4:00 – 6:00pm Place: Zoom Meeting Purpose: Update PAC; gather feedback on interior finishes and options. Attendees PAC Attendees: Chris Duncan Sarah Ellison Sandy Intraversato Leasa Lowy Jahzeel Ormeno Aukai Ferguson Cole Olsen John Wallin John Wendland Absent: Lainie Decker Natalie Gentry Cassidy Miller Staff Attendees: Megan Big John, City of Lake Oswego Bruce Powers, City of Lake Oswego Tony Vandenberg, City of Lake Oswego Jan Wirtz, City of Lake Oswego Jennifer Marsicek, Scott Edwards Architecture Sid Scott, Scott Edwards Architecture Kara Grothen, Scott Edwards Architecture Andra Zerbe, Scott Edwards Architecture Lorelei Magee, Scott Edward Architecture Billy Griffitts, Counsilman Hunsaker Jeff Munro, City of Lake Oswego Kyra Haggart, City of Lake Oswego Allison Brown, JLA Public Involvement Ariella Frishberg, JLA Public Involvement Welcome and General Updates Allison Brown, JLA Public Involvement, began the meeting. She reviewed Zoom tools and etiquette, and reviewed the meeting agenda and purpose. The group reviewed the PAC Meeting 6 Summary. The summary was approved with no additional edits. Jennifer Marsicek, Scott Edwards Architecture, shared a review of the overall plans for the project including the golf course, art updates, the recreation pool, and overall building finishes. Other updates included: • The project moved from the design development phase into the construction documents phase. 2 • Land use review application was submitted and sent back with incomplete items. The traffic study and parking analysis need updates. • Construction documents will be done in May, followed by building permit submittal once land use approval is received. Presentation and Discussion: Pools and Interiors Jennifer presented on the conceptual site plan and building plan of the LORAC building, which had few changes from the previous. • Electric vehicle stations shown in pink would be installed first, and those in blue would be installed at a later date. An ADA accessible station will be installed near the entrance. • Patio spaces are being developed. • Competition Pool seating can be as flexible as needed. A member of the PAC asked how wide the deck space adjacent to the competition pool was and what the pool depth and length would be: • The north side will be 21.5 feet from the edge of the water to the wall, and 18 feet from the edge of the water to the mechanical area. • The east side is 21 feet to the wall. • The longest part of the west side is 22 feet from wall to surface of water. • The narrowest area is a 9.5-foot pinch point. The pool lift was moved to lessen the pinch point in this area. • Interior Pool storage will be relatively the same size, but will include an exterior storage area as well. Storage plans will be sent to the competition pool stakeholders with course layouts toward the end of March. • Pool depth across the lanes will be 9 ft deep. The east side pool ramp depth will gradually move from 5 feet 6 inches to a consistent 9 feet, with a slight slope. The length of the pool is 112 feet east to west, and 25 yards north to south. Jennifer shared a presentation of exterior elevations, which showed the locations of the colors on the outside of the building. The next slides showed how the building will look when completed, including the grounds, walkways, bioswales, water slide, patios, and parking lot. Detailed renderings and landscape plans are available on the website. A PAC member asked where the additional path to Lakeridge High school would end, which will be at Banyan Lane near the track. Bruce Powers, City of Lake Oswego, gave an update on the golf course: • The golf course has been submitted to land use, and comments related to that are being addressed. • The course is at 50% for construction documents. Once a cost estimate is established, it will move to phase 2 for construction, hopefully within the next month. • The driving range will not open before the course is completed because of the construction needed in the area. Kyra Haggart, City of Lake Oswego, gave a brief update on the clubhouse. There would not be many structural changes, but it will be undergoing updates in early June. 3 Jan Wirtz, City of Lake Oswego, shared a presentation on the prioritized areas for public art and areas considered for sculptures, indoor framed art, and bird-safe window decals. • Six areas were chosen near entrance areas to allow for the most visibility. • Public comment discouraged using mural art, so those will not be used. Slide, Toddler Areas, and Recreation Pool Billy Griffitts, Counsilman Hunsaker, shared a presentation on recreation pool updates, which included tot areas, lap lanes, the open area, and the water slide. • The entire recreation pool is 3,995 square feet of water, which includes: o 922 sq. ft. toddler area. o 1,820 sq. ft. lap lanes. o 1,265 sq. ft. open area. o 17.6 ft water slide. o The area will range from 3.6 ft to 5 ft deep. o Toddler area will be 12 inches deep. • Lifeguard stations will be determined by pool operations and may be roaming. • The entrance to the recreation pool will be on the northside near the locker rooms. He then showed the features of the toddler pool: • Cascade play features will be accessible and interactive. • Spray features will have variations in flow and shape. • Tot slides mimics slides for older kids, so younger kids will feel included. This would replace a couple of the spray features. Themes can be explored in the future. Billy asked if PAC members had any questions or comments about the play features: • Q: How would the toddler slide impact space in the shallow water? o A: It takes up more space but could be oriented in an optimal layout. It would limit a couple of the other features. • Comment: I like the toddler slide and think it would be a popular feature. • Q: What are some of the most popular features you’ve seen throughout the country? o A: Cascades, because they are accessible to a wide range of children. Spray features are easy to maintain. Toddler slides are fantastic everywhere. Allison performed a temperature check to see how many PAC members liked the idea of a toddler slide, even if it replaced some of the other play features. Most members were in support of a toddler slide. • Comment: The slide should be away from the spa, so it doesn’t block the view of the kid area for parents. o We will factor all of those things in when we are looking at placement. There are also some open top slide options that provide more visibility. • Q: How does the upper slide monitor communicate with the lower slide for safety? 4 o A: There is a direct line of sight so when patrons go down the slide, monitors are able to see when they leave the landing area. The guard up top ensures people are leaving at a safe distance apart, and the bottom lifeguard is there for extra safety. o Security cameras aren’t usually installed around water slides. • Q: Will kids get jammed in the bottom of the large slide? It looks steep. o A: Water slides are required to be almost level for 10 feet near their exit, which is why the slide takes up so much space. When patrons exit the slide, they will have enough space in the pool to slow down and not impact the area beyond the rope. • Q: Where is the exit for the slide area? o A: There is a small swim out and patrons will have dedicated access to the slide stairs. Allison and Billy asked if there was any feedback on the play features or themes: • A member had previously mentioned the Lorax being a pun-like theme for the LORAC. • Bright colors might be more popular than a brown tree trunk style. • Coming out of an animal’s mouth would be popular. • Double slides would be good for wait times. • Water squirting options would be fun, though this may be overwhelming for some kids. Many don’t like to be splashed in the face. • Q: What will the surface bottom be? I have negative memories of skinned knees associated with this. o A: We are using plaster, but the tot slide can have a squishier run off pad for kids. • Comment: Sometimes it’s hard to see children at the top of the slide, especially when managing more than one child. Visibility should be considered. • Comment: I like the vortex and the idea of inclusive play for all kids. I’ve seen tippy bucket features and my kids loved it. o Those features can be scary for younger kids and have a large splash radius. We are limited by the size of the natatorium, and those might take up most of the space. • Q: Is there ADA access to the area? o A: There is a ramp on the south side that goes out to the wading area. Interior Facilities Lorelei Magee, Scott Edwards Architecture, gave a presentation on lobby areas, locker areas, and selected colors and finishes. The lobby images shown today would only be for color aesthetics and will change. The project team is working with an acoustics consultant to remedy sound issues. Inside features will include: • Warm wood finishes. • An acoustic pattern on the ceiling. • Multiple areas for seating and views. • A display area and long counter for rentals. • Recessed accent carpeting on the floor. • Locker room colors more neutral than previous iterations. • Bright, modern showers and bathrooms, featuring local school colors. o Q: Will showers be accessible to small children? Button controls are not reachable. 5  A: There is an accessible stall near the end, but we should look into other options. • Banners for local water sports teams can be added to the walls/ceiling of the competition pool. Lorelei showed the PAC members wall graphics for the competition pool that incorporated colors and logos for the local schools. Members agreed that they liked the second graphic better. Questions and comments about the design renderings: • Q: Why do we have orange in the locker rooms, and not blue and yellow? o A: The competitive pool belongs to the schools, but we tried to incorporate both school colors. We can keep talking about different colors, but they are limited by the colors of the plastic lockers. • Comment: It looks like Lakeridge was completely omitted and the other school is dominant. o We can consider ways to have both school’s colors and can also make them reflective of the City of Lake Oswego colors. • Q: Were the oranges we saw the more subdued colors you mentioned? o A: The carpeting and laminates were, but I can find a more subdued orange. • Comment: We want to make sure both schools are represented equally in the wall graphic. • Q: Will we have slippery floor issues when people exit the aquatic area? o A: They should have enough space on the concrete, but we can look into whether a walk off mat may be necessary. Chehalem used more walk off mats to mitigate this. Recessed mats may also be an option. Lorelei thanked everyone for their feedback and said she would reevaluate locker room colors. The group was in agreement about the competition pool school graphics and decided to continue the discussion on recreation pool accent colors. Next Steps and Closing Allison thanked the PAC members and project team members for their participation in the meeting. • There will be an update on pool layouts sent to competition pool stakeholders soon. • A pool stakeholder meeting will occur in early April. • The project team will be presenting on facility sustainability to the City Council work session and Parks and Recreation on March 16th and 17th. • A dry land stakeholder meeting will happen soon. PAC members and team members thanked one another and adjourned. 6 Appendix 1: Zoom Chat Leasa Lowy: Can you point out the life guard stations Leasa Lowy: how does the upper slide monitor communicated with the lower slide lifeguard John Wallin: if you go with a slide (which sounds really fun) if there is one that looks like the Lorax that would extend our little punny name Christopher Duncan: I second Sarah's point - my kids loved the toddler slide when they were that age Leasa Lowy: So they can see …no camera is needed? Leasa Lowy: agree love the vortex Sarah Ellison: I've been in locker rooms where children are unable to turn on the shower because the controls are set too high--are the showers more accessible for children in these locker rooms? Leasa Lowy: the second one Leasa Lowy: why do we have orange in the locker rooms not the same blue gold/yellow combo ? Leasa Lowy: it looks like Lakeridge color got removed Leasa Lowy: but LO stayed Leasa Lowy: seems out of balance Christopher Duncan: There's Lakeridge grey... Christopher Duncan: Make benches green and change the orange accent? Jahzeel Ormeno: so sorry all, I have to drop for another call … looks great, thank you! Leasa Lowy: great job ! John Wallin: amazing job, it looks incredible