LORAC Community Meeting 1 Summary_210225LAKE OSWEGO RECREATION AND AQUATICS CENTER
COMMUNITY MEETING
Lake Oswego Community Meeting #1 Summary Page 1
COMMUNITY MEETING 1 SUMMARY
Date: 2/25/2021
Time: 6:00pm – 7:30pm
Place: Zoom Meeting
Purpose: Provide project update and details on the recreation pool and dryland recreation plans.
Outcomes: Build understanding on where the project is currently, solicit feedback on community priorities for
the recreation and aquatic center.
Outreach and Attendance
Outreach
Here are some of the ways that the community meeting was advertised:
• Hello LO
• Lake Oswego ActiveNet
• Parks & Recreation and City of Lake Oswego websites
• LO Golf, Youth, Tennis, Luscher Farm and Adult Community Center listservs
• Parks and Recreation Social Media (facebook, twitter)
• Nextdoor (reaches 19,000)
• Adult Community Center Digital Newsletter and facebook
• Email outreach
• Lake Oswego Social Calendar
• Lake Oswego Events Calendar
• Down LO
Staff Attendees:
Jenny Anderson, City of Lake
Oswego
Bruce Powers, City of Lake
Oswego
Jan Wirtz, City of Lake Oswego
Erica Baggen, Scott Edwards
Architecture
Jennifer Marsicek, Scott
Edwards Architecture
Sid Scott, Scott Edwards
Architecture
Andra Zerbe, Scott Edwards
Architecture
Allison Brown, JLA Public
Involvement
Ariella Frishberg, JLA Public
Involvement
Public Attendees: The meeting was attended by 25 members of the public.
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Welcome and Introductions
Allison Brown, JLA Public Involvement, began the meeting. First, she reviewed the webinar tools and reminded
attendees the meeting would be recorded. Questions could be asked using the Zoom Q&A function and
comments could be left on the Jamboard, found here: Lake Oswego Recreation & Aquatic Center - Google
Jamboard. Project team members introduced themselves and shared their role on the project.
Project Overview
Bruce Powers, City of Lake Oswego, and Jennifer Marsicek, Scott Edwards Architecture, shared a
presentation giving a broad overview of the project. The slides from this presentation can be viewed here:
LORAC Community Meeting Presentation
Recreation Survey Results
Jenny Anderson, City of Lake Oswego, reviewed results from the survey the City distributed in January to
gather the community’s input on the recreational pool design. The full results from this survey can be found
here: LORAC Recreational Pool Survey Results
Jenny also introduced the dry recreation survey, which was open until March 3, 2021. Jan Wirtz, City of Lake
Oswego, shared examples of recreational activities currently on offer.
Q&A
Members of the public were invited to use the Zoom Q&A function to ask questions. These questions are listed
below (in order of how they were answered), along with answers provided by staff during the webinar or filled
in afterward with additional information. Some attendees chose to enter their comments in the Q&A function
instead of using the Jamboard. These comments have been included below in the subsequent section titled
“Public Comments.”
• What do the double arrows from Koawood indicate?
o This question was in reference to the graphic depicting the potential development area for the
project. The blue arrows on this graphic indicate where the architects believe there may be a
good connection between the project area and the surrounding neighborhoods and roads. They
designate that a connection is needed, but no final decisions have been made about what kinds
of access that will include (ex. pedestrian or vehicular).
• How far from the street will the 12-foot multi-use path be? Will it be separated by a vegetated
strip/buffer?
o The design team confirmed there is a 5-foot buffer, then the multi-use path, and then a retaining
wall. There will be a landscape strip that separates the path from the road.
• Will the parking for the golf course and aquatic center be separated anyway?
o The parking lot needs to accommodate aquatic users, fitness users, golf course users, and staff.
It is not currently in the plans to separate parking. From a land use perspective, there is no way
to separate the uses, so there will be shared parking for the golf course and the recreational
center.
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• What is the maximum depth of the rec pool and lap pool?
o The recreational pool hasn’t been finalized, but the team is considering 18” at the shallow end,
3.5’ in the instructional area, and as deep as 5’ or 6’ in some of the open play areas. For the
competition pool, it will be 6.5’ at the stair/warm-up area and 9.5’ for the majority of it.
• Is there any potential for outdoor pool or at least indoor/outdoor blend? Everyone I talk to wants the
black butte style roll-up doors to the indoor rec pool bringing patio sf into play overlooking golf course!
o The team has not talked about an outdoor pool, but has talked about outdoor space that
connects on the south side or the golf course side of the center. The facility the architects
designed in Newberg (the Chehalem Aquatic Center) doesn’t have an outside pool, but does
have roll-up doors and a sun-deck/patio. No decisions have been made at this time, but the
architects are looking at options.
• Will there be on deck shower for rinsing off?
o This is something the team has discussed and will be looking into.
• Where are we with the overall cost numbers of the Rec/Aquatic center for just the "minimum" services
according to the "memorandum of understanding"
o This is a preliminary stage of design, so there are no solid numbers yet. However, SEA is aware
of the budget for this project and is committed to designing the best possible project within the
budget. More concrete numbers will be made available as the project moves forward. Part of the
decision-making logic behind the shape and location of the building was based on maximizing
money spent on the building instead of the site. SEA is also determining the most cost-effective
method of building the center, including collaborating with the golf-course team to find
efficiencies between the projects.
• At the PAC tour of the SW Community Center, we were told that during peak hours there is often a wait
time for entering the recreational pool of anywhere from a few minutes to an hour. From the pool
survey, it sounds like there are a lot of community members anticipating using the pool on a regular
basis. How does the city gauge whether the warm water pool is the right size for our community--not
too big and not too small?
o It is a balance between what we can afford and what the community wants. The reality is that
there may be some wait times in the future. The goal is to build the best that we can for the
amount of money that we have.
• So, is the March 9th “final recommendation to LOSD and LO Council joint meeting” realistic?
o It was determined this March 9th date referred to a timeline from March 2020 and is not relevant
to the current timeline.
• Will the golf course redesign have similar community involvement?
o Yes, there will be public involvement for that project. There will be a Technical Advisory
Committee that will help make big decisions about the golf course. There will be a lot of public
involvement because we know that is critical to getting this project right.
• Can Jennifer speak about pool capacity? Specifically, for people on deck. For example, current LO
District pool has a maximum capacity of 450.
o For the recreational pool, you are allowed to have 1 person per 24 square feet. For a 3,000 it
would allow 125 people, in the water. Capacity is different for in the pool versus people on deck.
Occupancy loads for buildings are based on worst case scenarios for how many people you
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could safely evacuate from the building, it doesn’t mean it’s an ideal number to have in the
building normally. For a pool you also have to consider how well you can monitor and guard the
space to make it safe. Again, these designs are preliminary, but what amenities go where will in
part depend on how you can safely guard those facilities. Future meetings will share more
details and specific answers to questions like this.
• For Bruce at the golf meeting. Will golf carts be housed in the maintenance building? When will the golf
meeting be?
o Questions about the golf course will be answered in the future at events focused on public
involvement for the golf course project.
Public Comments
General Site: Add your comments on the conceptual site plan
• Room for athlete/spectator seating during swim meets. District meet has about 200 athletes and about
200 spectators
• Who will be paying for Capital Improvements that will need to happen to take care of Street, traffic
issues?
Recreational Pool: Do you have any additional comments on the recreational pool?
• Sun deck!
• Can the locker rooms move towards Stafford to move the rec pool toward the golf course! Better view!
• Can there be an outdoor pool, or roll up style doors?
• Room for swimming lessons and lifeguard training classes
Dry Recreation: Do you have any comments on the dry recreation part of the Center?
• Dry classroom space for lifeguard training classes
• Office space for aquatic staff
Looking to the Future: What is your biggest hope for the center?
• We need a sun deck that has margaritas and golf course views!!!!
• That many in the community will be able to participate in activities; learn in and enjoy the water.
• I’d like to see a continuation of existing programs and user groups (pre-covid), at the new aquatic
center.
Looking to the Future: What is your biggest concern?
• One concern is that it won’t be big enough for all programs or room to grow.
• That the financial obligations to administer and maintain this building will reduce funds available for
future needs. The initial estimate for $404,000 required subsidy has to come from somewhere.
Additional comments from the Zoom Q&A
• sun deck!!!!!!
• more sand traps!
• we need a sun deck that has margaritas and golf course views!!!!
• Thank you SEA for all your expertise!
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• Thank you to all the presenters this evening! :)
• Thank you!
• Thank you Bruce! I promise not to get “teed” off!
Wrap Up and Next Steps
Project team members thanked the community for attending and asking questions. Additional questions can be
sent to Jenny Anderson and Bruce Powers. There will be another community meeting in the future, date to be
announced.
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Appendices
Appendix 1: JamBoard Screenshots
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