LORAC Online Open House Report
Lake Oswego Recreation and Aquatic Center: Online Open House Summary Page 1
LAKE OSWEGO RECREATION AND
AQUATIC CENTER
ONLINE OPEN HOUSE SUMMARY
Open House Overview
The online open house (OOH) ran from May 14th to June 4th, 2021. Visitors could visit the site to learn more
about the future recreation and aquatics center and provide their input so the design can best meet the needs
of the community.
The OOH had four stations:
• Project History – Gave visitors a brief overview of the history of the project and the partnership between
the City of Lake Oswego and the Lake Oswego School District
• Project Site – Provided information about plans to use the golf course space. Visitors could provide
input on how the outside spaces at the recreation center will be used.
• Inside the Building – Visitors could view draft plans for the competition and recreation pools, as well as
the dry recreation spaces. Visitors could provide feedback on each of these spaces.
• Next Steps – Visitors could provide any additional comments and share contact information to receive
project updates.
Respondents could answer the survey questions or simply read the information. During the three-week period
the OOH was open:
• The page was visited 2,610 times, with 2,194 new visitors and 416 returning visitors.
• 298 people responded to the survey, with a nearly 100% completion rate.
Outreach Review
The online open house was publicized in the following ways:
• City of Lake Oswego website
• Parks and Recreation website
• Published in: Hello LO, LO Down, LO Review Weekly
• City of Lake Oswego social media: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Nextdoor
• E-newsletters: City of Lake Oswego, Adult Community Center, Library
• Listservs and email announcements: ActiveNet, Golf, Teen/Youth, Neighborhood Associations
• Communications through the Chamber of Commerce and the Lake Oswego School District
Respondents were asked to share how they found out about the OOH. Of the 274 people who responded:
• 56% (154) received an email from the project team
• 18% (49) were told by a friend, family member, or colleague
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• 11% (31) heard about it through social media
• 9% (25) received something in the mail
• 7% (19) learned about it directly from the project website
• 4% (12) read about it in the newspaper
• 9% (26) checked “other” and wrote in their own answers
o Email/newsletter from the LOSD (8)
o LO Down (3)
o Chamber of Commerce
o Email from the LO golf course
o Hello LO
o Living well in LO
o Neighborhood association
Overall Themes & Takeaways
The online open house received many comments from passionate community members. Participants remarked
on a broad range of topics, but general themes included:
• Concerns about the size of the competition and recreation pools
• Concerns about the direction of the competition pool lanes
• Concerns about the cost of the recreation center
• Concerns about traffic and parking
• Desire for a sufficient number of lap lanes
• Support for the project, the recreational fitness options, and the proposed recreational pool elements
What follows is a more in-depth discussion of the survey questions and participant responses. The full text of
the write-in answers from respondents can be found in the Appendix document.
Project Site Feedback
What are your top two priorities for the outside space at the recreation center?
The biggest priority for the outside space at the recreation center was having enough parking, with 202
respondents (82%) selecting this answer. This was followed by “a patio that has easy access to the indoor
pool” with 98 respondents (40%) and “casual gathering space near the golf course and clubhouse with 90
respondents (37%). Only 22 respondents (9%) prioritized having a patio with easy access to the fitness area.
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Do you have any concerns about the proposed site design, traffic, or parking plans?
Please explain.
Nearly half of respondents (48%) had no concerns about the proposed site design, traffic, or parking plans.
About 29% of respondents reported having some small concerns and 23% reported having major concerns.
When asked to explain these concerns, 135 respondents shared additional comments.
The themes from these comments are below:
• Concerns about the increase in traffic volume (49)
o Need for a traffic light
o Bergis Road and Stafford Road are especially
congested
o Unprotected left turns onto Stafford Road
• Concerns about adequate parking and overall functionality of
the parking lot (25)
o Making parking lot safe for pedestrians to cross
• Desire for alternative modes of transportation, such as
walking, biking, and transit (13)
• Negative impacts to the golf course (12)
o Concerns about reducing the course from 18 to 9 holes
• General positive comments/support (8)
• Disapproval of the location (8)
• Concerns about pedestrian safety (7)
o Desire for sidewalks
The full list of comments can be found in Appendix 1.
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Enough parking A patio that has easy access
to the indoor pool
Casual gathering space near
the golf course and clubhouse
A patio that has easy access
to the fitness areas
What are your top two priorities for the outside space at the
recreation center? (check up to 2)
“I am concerned about traffic on Stafford.
Currently, it is difficult to make a left off of
Bergis onto southbound Stafford at
certain times of the day. I am afraid that
will become harder and more frequent.
Would a traffic light help mitigate that?”
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I have no concerns I have some small
concerns
I have major concerns
Do you have any concerns about the
proposed site design, traffic, or parking
plans?
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Competition Pool Feedback
Do you have any concerns about the proposed competition pool design? Please
explain.
Over two-thirds of respondents (68%) had no concerns about the proposed competition pool design. Around
21% of respondents expressed having major concerns and 11% said they had some small concerns. When
asked to share their concerns, 84 respondents shared additional comments.
A few people wrote detailed comments which offered technical recommendations for the needs of competitive
swimmers. These are highlighted in Appendix 2.
General themes from all comments are as follows:
• Concern that the competition/practice field should be
in the north/south direction* (27)
• Importance of practicing in the same direction as
during competitions.
• Spectators should be seated on the western side
• Lanes available for lap community swimming (8)
• Pool size is too small (8)
• Depth of water--too deep or too shallow (7)
• Interest in diving area/diving board (6)
• Larger spectator space is needed (5)
• Generally supportive comments (5)
*20 of these comments included identical text, which read, “The
primary swim competition and practice field should be in the
north/south direction along the 25-yd width.”
For the complete text of all comments, please see Appendix 2.
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I have no concerns I have major concerns I have some small
concerns
Do you have any concerns about the
proposed competition pool design?
“Competition pool should have lanes
available in the daytime for lap swim by
LO community.”
“There is extensive documentation provided
about why you do not practice in one
direction and compete in another, including
the risk of head strikes by swimmers on
whom you've changed the ambient lighting
of the pool. There is a lot of overhead to
moving lane lines, bulkhead, and re-
anchoring starting blocks and ensuring they
are safe.”
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Recreation Pool Feedback
How would you rate the design of Option ___?
Respondents were asked to rate four recreational pool designs on a scale from 1 to 5 (with 1 being strongly
dislike it and 5 being love it). Option 2: Largest Pool Capacity received the highest average rating, with a score
of 3.58. Option 3: Lap Lane Separation Emphasized received an average rating of 3.18, and both Option 4:
Water Slide Emphasized and Option 1: Spa Emphasized received an average rating of 2.82.
• Option 2 had the most support with 59% of respondents sharing they liked or loved it (67 and 66
respondents, respectively). 23% were neutral (51 respondents) and 15% disliked or strongly disliked
this option (19 and 16 respondents, respectively). 3% (6 respondents) were unsure about this option.
• The next most popular option was Option 3, which had the support of 45% of respondents (33 loved it
and 67 liked it). 28% were neutral about this option (64 respondents) and 24% disliked or strongly
disliked this option (37 respondents and 17 respondents, respectively). 3% (7 respondents) were
unsure about this option.
• Option 4 was supported by 38% of respondents (35 loved it and 48 liked it). 17% were neutral about
this option (38 respondents) and 42% disliked or strongly disliked this option (46 respondents and 47
respondents, respectively). 3% (6 respondents) were unsure about this option.
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• Option 1 was only supported by 36% of respondents (33 loved it and 47 liked it). 19% were neutral
about this option (43 respondents) and 43% disliked or strongly disliked this option (51 respondents
and 44 respondents, respectively). 2% (5 respondents) were unsure about this option.
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Option 1: Spa Emphasized Option 2: Largest Pool
Capacity
Option 3: Lap lane separation
emphasized
Option 4: Water slide
emphasized
How would you rate the options for the design of the recreational
pool? (%)
Love it Like it Neutral Dislike it Strongly dislike Not sure
2.82
3.58
3.18
2.82
0.0
0.5
1.0
1.5
2.0
2.5
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3.5
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Option 1 Option 2 Option 3 Option 4
Recreational Pool Options -Weighted
Ratings
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Option 1:
Option 2:
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Option 3:
Option 4:
Which of these factors were important to your rating of the designs?
The biggest deciding factor for respondents was pool size, with over two-thirds of respondents choosing this
option (69%). The next top answers were “open water area size” (46%), “water slide and plunge area” (38%),
and “spa size” (32%). The factor of least concern to respondents was the entry method to the plunge area, with
only 10% of respondents selecting this as a factor when they rated designs. The proximity of the spa area and
tot area to the lockers were also not very important to respondents (with only 7% and 10% choosing these as
factors). 37 respondents selected “other” and wrote in additional factors.
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Themes from these answers included:
• Careful placement of the water slides for safety (7)
• Separation between tots and adults/lap lanes (5)
• Increase the number of lap lanes (5)
• Keep lap lanes separate from other areas (4)
The complete list of additional factors can be found in Appendix 3.
Dry Recreation Feedback
How would you rate the importance of a ____ in this facility?
Respondents were asked to rate the importance of four features for the dry recreation section of the facility. No
strong preferences arose from the answer to this question. Overall, most respondents felt that each of the four
features would be important or very important. On a scale of 1 to 5 (with 1 being very unimportant and 5 being
very important), the group fitness space received the highest score with an average rating of 3.7. The
gymnasium received an average rating of 3.69, the cardio exercise room received an average rating of 3.66,
and the weight room received an average rating of 3.49.
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Pool size
Open water area size
Water slide and plunge area
Spa size
Deck size and space for spectators
Tot area size
Entry method to the lap lanes
Other
Entry method to the open water area
Entry method to tot area
Tot area proximity to wider deck area and viewing area
Tot area proximity to lockers
Spa proximity to lockers
Entry method to the plunge area
Which factors were important in your ranking?
“Tot and pool area should be
closest to locker rooms. Lap areas
farther away so the kids don't go
through. Giving lap lanes better
separation from the pool traffic.”
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Gymnasium Weight Room Cardio Exercise Room Group Fitness Space
How would you rate the importance of the following spaces in
this facility?
Very important Important Neutral Unimportant Very unimportant Not sure
3.69 3.49 3.66 3.70
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1.0
1.5
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2.5
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3.5
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Gymnasium Weight Room Cardio Exercise
Room
Group Fitness
Space
Recreation Features -Weighted Ratings
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Additional Comments
A total of 110 respondents wrote additional comments in response to an open-ended question. Some of them
refer to the plans shown above. General themes from these comments were:
• General positive support (14 people)
• Support for including fitness classes and/or offering art and dance classes for all ages (13)
• Desire for immediate occupancy earthquake standards and using the building as emergency shelter (9)
• Include climate control measures and/or consider the need for differing water temperatures for different
activities (6)
• Preference for an aquatic center only without including other interest areas (7)
• Concern that the competition/practice field should be in the north/south direction and spectators be
seated on the western side (5)
• Concerns about scheduling the space appropriately for different swim interests (4)
• Desire for community lap swim to be included (4)
A sample of comments are below and the complete list of comments can be found in Appendix 4.
• “Am in favor of space for exercise classes -- which I will attend as long as the price is competitive with
joining a fitness center. Classes at the Adult Center used to be competitive and then they were raised
so high that it was not affordable to go there, when compared with 24 Hour Fitness.”
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• “Hoping the temperature of the rec swimming pool will be quite a bit warmer than the competitive pool.
Really consider the kids sliding into the middle of the rec pool; I've been in these before and its nerve
wracking as a parent watching kids fly into the middle of the pool. It needs to be a separate area.”
• “I think it is important to keep the facility balanced for many interests and needs, as there are many
retired people, but also families with kids, and many in between.”
• “I'm concerned by the addition of recreational fitness to this facility. That's not what the school bond
funding this facility was about. If there is a desire for indoor recreational/exercise space, it needs to be
put elsewhere with separate funds.”
Demographics
The survey asked respondents a few demographic questions. These questions were optional and asked to
determine the efficacy and depth of outreach.
Race/Ethnicity: The majority of respondents who answered this question identified their race/ethnicity as White
(190 respondents). 18 respondents identified as Asian and 8 identified as Hispanic/Latino. 8 respondents
identified as another race or ethnicity.
Language: The majority of respondents who answered this question identified English as the language spoken
at home (242 respondents). 11 respondents selected Spanish, 6 respondents selected Chinese, and 5
respondents selected German/Yiddish. 6 respondents selected or wrote in an additional language.
Income: The majority of respondents who responded to this question were within the $100,000+ income
bracket (170 respondents). 33 respondents were within the $50,000-$99,000 income bracket. 14 respondents
were in the under $50,000 income bracket.
Gender: Of those who answered this question, 149 respondents identified as women, and 73 identified as
men. 51 respondents chose not to answer this question and no respondents selected “transgender” or “non-
binary.”
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LAKE OSWEGO RECREATION AND
AQUATIC CENTER
ONLINE OPEN HOUSE SUMMARY – APPENDICES
These comments have been presented as written by survey participants.
Appendix 1: Concerns about Proposed Site
132 comments
• 1. Enough parking for both the golf and swimming area.
2. A larger area to practice putting, chip and pitch and sand trap.
• 1. I live on the current 15th hole. We get A LOT of range balls hit over the current netting and into our
yard. Will the extension of the range address with higher netting or other changes.
2. We get extensive storm water drainage from the range and course. Current drains are inadequate in
heavy rains. Will this be addressed?
• 176 spaces doesn’t seem like enough parking for staff, swimmers, golfers, and gym users. Especially
when weather is nice people will want to hang out. We don’t need a golf course. Why not have 3 pools.
One for lap swimming, one for recreation and a kiddie pool. (And please keep the kids out of the adult
pools.) I would also like a hot and cold tub with jets.
• A family gathering place located outside of the recreation center (ideally to include a play structure)
would be a great addition. I have seen a similar space at the Chehalem Aquatic Center and think it is
very appreciated by families who are at the rec center for events where not all family members are
participants.
• A little concerned with traffic.
• Absolutely no pathway to Cloverleaf Rd; Banyan Ln or Koawood Rd!!! No roads or pathways from the
facility to our neighborhood!!!
• Adding this facility and the development of the Rassekh site, along with the high school, the dog parks,
the playing fields and Lusher Farm is too much all in one area for this ""major feeder"".
Additionally, the ""runoff"" from the parking lot needs to be a regular bioswale type of application so that
the pollutants from the parking lot do not adversely impact the creek.
• Appropriate ventilation and hepa filters for the entire building.
• Are you going to have a traffic signal for entry onto Stafford Road? How ugly is this parking lot going to
be? The new parking lot the city just established at the new Iron Mountain Park is a huge eyesore and
takes away from the natural beauty.
• As a parent of two small children, I am always concerned about having enough safe walkways through
and around parking lots to allow my kids to navigate these dangerous areas safely.
• Be sure facility has Immediate occupancy earthquake standards. Traffic on Stafford Rd.
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• Built to IMMEDIATE OCCUPANCY earthquake standards so it will still be standing after a major
earthquake and can also serve as an emergency shelter. Not doing this is short-sighted and
irresponsible.
• Busy street and parking and transportation for students outside of school hours. Will not use rec center,
because it takes 25 min from the north side of the lake and there is no efficient way to get there.
• Children locker room separate from adults.
• Plenty of Daytime lap swimming hours for adults.
• Sufficient parking.
• Fees and lower priority for non-LO swim teams (ie Cascadia)
• Separate swim pool for toddlers not potty trained.
• Cost. Every city project seems to have overruns, City Hall for example.
• Dangerous traffic exiting rec center onto Stafford - Left turn dangerous
• Teenage drivers on Overlook could cause dangers in/out of Overlook access point
• Do not want any kind of path connecting Rec center to Cloverleaf or that neighborhood!!!
• Easy, safe access if arriving by bike. Bike parking.
• Enough lap lanes so that 2-3 lanes can be reserved for slow swimmers at any time of day. LO has a
significant 65+ population and some are slower swimmers than those 30-65 year-olds. It isn't feasible
being in lanes with fast swimmers, yet we like regular exercise and don't want to be confined to weird
hours like early a.m. or very late in the day to find a slow lane. Some pools also have lanes reserved for
medium speed swimmers, and segregate these from the really fast swimmers.
• -enough parking for swim events, gym
-walk areas for families from car to center; will we be walking w toddlers in the road behind cars
backing up
-is parking lot one way
-speed thru parking lot/ speed humps
• Ensuring that cyclists can still use the bike path. Repair of the bike path along what is currently the first
green
• Entry/exit traffic to facility will be a disaster on a two lane, heavily traveled road
• Golf driving range extension must have sufficient netting to safely contain balls. Currently balls are
entering private residences without the extension, without improvements property and personal injury
are highly likely.
• Great choice for the site!
• How will this effect traffic and usage from the Palisades neighborhood?
• I absolutely do not comprehend why this is the chosen location for an aquatic center. Surely there is
other property in Lake Oswego for a recreation area that doesn’t involve destroying a gem of a golf
course. This plan is absolutely ruining this spot by adding buildings, people, parking and traffic. Lake
Oswego/West Linn already can’t handle the increased traffic. This project, added to the high school, the
soccer field, the dog parks, walking paths, and existing golf course traffic will turn Stafford Road into a
nightmare. BUILD THE AQUATIC CENTER SOMEWHERE ELSE! Why ruin this peaceful, little,
beautiful golf course a gem in the middle of the city.
• I already find that road hard to travel & access from farther away parts of LO. Could we put some
parking by Sunnydale & walk in for those coming via Northshore (from Westlake on Bryant/Lakeshore)
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• I am concerned about the impact on McVey and the increased traffic in neighborhoods
• I am concerned about traffic on Stafford. Currently, it is difficult to make a left off of Bergis onto
southbound Stafford at certain times of the day. I am afraid that will become harder and more frequent.
Would a traffic light help mitigate that?
• I am excited about this project and think it will be a great addition to our community. Hopefully, it will be
set up for use for all age groups as there is no rec center in West Linn, Tualatin or OC.
• I am greatly concerned that the City and District are greatly underestimating impacts to traffic on
Stafford Road. My backyard lines up with the entrance to the existing golf course driveway across from
Stafford. I live on Oak Meadow Lane. No input has been solicited from the residents of this small
neighborhood off of Bergis Road. There is already a huge traffic problem trying to turn onto Bergis
(from either direction) from Stafford or turning onto Stafford from Bergis due to excessive speeds. As I
travel in and out of my neighborhood I witness near misses every day. While in my backyard, I also
hear frequent honking indicating near misses. Just because LOPD has not logged more accidents at
this intersection does not mean it is not a problem. Also, excessive dying trees and vegetation (a sore
spot during February's ice storm) make visuals difficult to execute a safe turn in this area. Traffic has
also been less during the pandemic, so I'm not sure data being used is accurate. There is already a
traffic problem at Bergis and Stafford during high school start and end times as students and parents
come from my neighborhood and the Highlands. But the City and District think it will be ok to add
additional traffic to this area with no traffic lights and a single left hand turn lane? Especially after
Rasekh Park is also developed? I'm really not sure that is realistic in an area where vehicles mostly
average 45-50mph. I am also concerned how noise mitigation will be implemented with this volume
increase (not to mention noise mitigation during 1.5! years of construction).
• I am hoping that the art space can have room for 6 -10 pottery wheels, a kiln, and sink.
• I am very unhappy about the rec/aquatic center being located here. This golf course will be as backed
up as Rose City GC with only 9 holes. This is terrible. I also believe you do need a light out on Stafford
Road at the golf course-not just Overlook Intersection. Your traffic study was probably done during
covid when there was very little traffic.
• I can see an increase of families and kids crossing Stafford Rd to enjoy the park. Is there anything we
can do to ensure a safe crossing?
• I expect this facility to be very popular. My main concern is parking capacity. I would like to review the
analysis that got to 176 spaces. How do I do this?
• I feel it's very necessary to have adult only times in the pool.
• I have concerns that is pool will not resolve scheduling issues. We have 2 HS water polo teams, 2 HS
swim teams and a club water polo and club swim team that use this pool, in addition to lessons and
community use. A stretch of what we already have (25 meter pool) is not going to resolve things. It
gives us at best a few extra lanes. All this money spent and by the time it’s built the community has
already outgrown it. What we need is a 50 meter by 2 meter main pool. So frustrating that it is a
community need going unmet.
• I have major concerns about the golf course being able to co-exist with this facility. I hope that the
course will be able to field enough players to continue with the types of groups and events they have
had in the past. I hope the parking for the golf course will remain as it is without overflow from the
recreation facility.
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• I like the 18 holes golf course
• I live in the portion of the Palisades neighborhood that is immediately west of the Golf Course and the
proposed Recreation and Aquatics center. My wife and I and our neighbors remain deeply concerned
about traffic and overflow parking in the residential streets that form the rectangular loop including
Cloverleaf, Marjorie, Koawood, and Banyan as well as Fernwood, the main access street from the East.
We were not reassured by claims made during the information session that was held last March by
representative of the City of LO and of the LOSD, and by project managers and technical advisers, that
parking would be sufficient for users of all the proposed facilities (including the renovated Golf Course,
and the new Recreation and Aquatics Center), either in the 163 parking spaces to be provided at the
site, or in overflow parking across Stafford Rd. We are concerned that some who use the facilities will
park in our streets and use the proposed path at the corner of Cloverleaf/Banyan to walk to the center.
There are already problems with parking in these areas during Lakeridge High School sports events.
This entails an increase of traffic on these streets which are normally quiet enough that children play in
the streets, riding bicycles, scooters, skateboards, and elderly residents walk daily in the streets
forming this loop. We are concerned that the safety and tranquility of this neighborhood will be
negatively impacted by efforts of some patrons of the new Recreation and Aquatics Center to use it as
an auxiliary parking facility.
I also am not persuaded by estimates given at the March information session of the impact of increased
traffic on Stafford Rd. which seemed to be based on old data and on dubious projections of future traffic
volume in a time when development and increased density of residential housing is being contemplated
or planned or is already under way in some portions of the region.
• I live off of Mcvey. With several new planned sports fields and the rec center I am very concern about
traffic on our one lane McVey road. Also there is not consistent side walks for walking along this road.
• I live on Kilkenny Rd. Turning left on to McVey with no traffic light is very risky, because vehicles are
coming downhill, sometimes 40-45 MPH on a curve. With increased Stafford-McVey traffic from these
facilities as well as the Wanker’s Corner development, we need a stoplight at the end of Kilkenny Rd.
• I really want my kids to be able to walk and bike to the center, so I hope that eventually the City
improves the pathway on Stafford all of the way to Highway 43
• I think the planning team has underestimated the parking. If you’ve spent any time at Lake Oswego
High School during a swim meet, you’d understand how full the parking lot can get. And sharing the lot
with golfers on the weekend of a swim meet would most definitely force parking on neighborhood
streets.
• I was a member of the West End Building focus group. At that time, we as a group came to the
conclusion it would be a perfect location for the community center. However, our input was completely
ignored! That was infuriating! We lost a perfect location for a community center. Now this new site has
been chosen. It’s not as large, not as convenient a location, has much fewer parking spaces and forces
the golf course to lose 9 holes of golf. This location isn’t the most ideal, but with the irresponsible sale
of the WEB, it may be our only option. This situation is so disappointing!
• I would like to see a modern, year-round driving range with heaters for the colder months. I would also
like to have a nice, much larger, practice putting green that is well maintained year-round.
• I would like to see pedestrian path extended beyond cloverleaf to clara ct/Lowenberg so that the sunny
hill neighborhood can have a pathway connection to the community center.
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• Also, the recreational lap swimmers, as a general rule of thumb, would not be interested in a pool that
is far warmer than the regular competition pool. I have 15 years of lifeguarding the recreational lap
swimmers in the Lake Oswego District pool... There have been many moments of this discussion with
these swimmers for me to draw upon. The 50 meter pool, again, is the Only design that would make
sense. And that is not covered in this present pool design, at all.
• I’m concerned there won’t be enough parking and access to the golf course will be tricky as a result.
• I’m concerned there won’t be enough parking spaces.
• I’m worried about traffic getting in and out. I wonder if a 3-way stop would be good at entrance?
• I’m worried that there will be so much mixed traffic across the mixed-use path cars, bikes, pedestrians
• If living in mountain park and already pay for HOA center, are we required to also pay for this center via
taxes?
• I'm concerned about the number of lanes. I'd like a turn signal into the site as well as a turn lane.
• I'm concerned with the redesign of the golf course and projected closure time; the course is a beloved
part of life in our neighborhood. I'm concerned as it always seems to come second when considering
the aquatic center, but to some of us the golf course is much more important. I hope this project team
will work with other Lake Oswego project teams and government entities to plan a site that serves the
community's best interests. I hope the traffic, parking, and development at Rassekh Park/Field are
being considered. I hope the city's 1.5% for art ordinance (No. 2078) is being considered from the
outset, and not as an afterthought. I hope this project team is going to include bike lanes and bike
storage to encourage the young people in the area to use bicycles to visit the golf course and new pool.
• I'm interested to know how this Project will best utilize the 1.5% for Art ordinance, how art (whether
sculptures or otherwise) will be integrated into the design, and hope the City and its designers involve
the City's partners, such as the Arts Council, early on in the design process.
• I'm just concerned about potential congestion in the morning and afternoon times when kids are going
and leaving school.
• I'm worried about the traffic disruption this will cause on overlook. I'm also very concerned with
pedestrian safety at the crossings at overlook and Stafford. Crossing at these corners, I've almost been
hit by distracted drivers every time. With the massive traffic already coming and going from Hazelia
field, these crossings are extremely dangerous. There's something about this intersection where
pedestrians are extremely hard to notice.
• In terms of pedestrian paths & access, I would like to see pedestrian access continued beyond
Cloverleaf to access the Sunny Hill neighborhood. Based on what I see & read in the plans/proposal
this appears doable (and honestly a natural extension). This has several potential positive impacts,
including less traffic, less parking need, safety (as opposed to walking down Stafford Road). This path
would open pedestrian access to all of Sunny Hill, Greentree Road, Greentree Circle and Wall Street
neighborhoods without the need to use cars or the busy roads of South Shore, McVey, Stafford &
Overlook. It would provide further distance for general ‘walkers’ to enjoy on a paved surface for all local
residents, as well as serving as safe pedestrian access to the facilities.
• It seems squeezed into a space next to a busy road. Can’t we find a better site
• It’s an already busy area for youth sports. Enough parking and multiple entrances seem necessary.
• I've sat there to turn left for a while and traffic goes fast. I think a light should be put in.
• Keep any trees you can!
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• Lack of options for public transportation. Traffic will be congested at school pick up and drop off times.
• Lake Oswego School District has school bus lines servicing the Bergis / Upper Cherry / Glenmorrie
areas which currently require busses to make unprotected left hand turns onto Stafford in order to
arrive at school on time. Your traffic study says no traffic light is indicated at the Stafford/Bergis
intersection. Looking at this holistically, get the Bus company involved to re-change the route directions
for a protected right hand turn into these neighborhoods and add a light at Cherry / 43 to exit OR add
the pressure pad activated light at Bergis/Stafford. Cars DO NOT STOP to allow the buses to turn onto
Stafford during school hours.
• Let's Go! Pool/Swimming should be the priority as there are many options for other exercise in the
community as well as commercially.
• Looks good!
• Looks Great! :)
• Losing the 18-hole golf course. There are other locations the aquatics center could be built.
Areas for adults. Most any facility that has a pool is overwhelmed with excited noisy kids. If the aquatics
center is going to be a good resource for older adults there needs to be areas for adults only, isolated
from the chaotic environment around the pool areas.
• Many kids and teens will attend swim practice at this location. Encouraging transportation other than by
car should be an important goal. Will the area be accessible by bike through the trail? Are there going
to be sufficient bike racks?
• Might need a traffic light to get into the parking lot. It’s kind of a blind weird hill/corner to get into the
parking lot now.
• My largest concern is the increase in traffic around that area, which may make it more difficult to get to
nearby parks. I do also wonder whether parking will be adequate. However, I support the project and
look forward to having a recreation center!
• No concerns but wish it was in a more central LO location so we could visit more often.
• Overall great. but please build a nice golf course - think country club with short holes. Add more
(double) sand traps. Make large, ungulated green. Would be nice if all holes were at least 10 yards
different. Have too many (4) between 120 and 130. Consider shortening 5 and lengthening 4 and may
be 3 too. People who hit drives farther than 250 yards can make course dangerous. Number 9, 100
yards is not a real golf hole. Cannot tell from design, and you may have that in mind. I would shoot for
the green on #8, hope I can also see if people are not on it. Lake Oswego needs a public golf course
and it should be done well for golfers and new golfers.
• Parking. Enough daytime hours and lanes for lap swimming for community
• Parking & solar
• Parking and traffic along Stafford Road would be my main concern. That's already a higher traffic area
because of Luscher Farms.
• Parking in neighborhoods
• Parking is totally inadequate for competitive events.
• Pedestrian crossing at Bergis without traffic lights seems terribly dangerous. Cars fly down Stafford Rd.
• Pedestrian crossing at Overlook/Stafford is already very dangerous and will be worsened by additional
traffic. I have nearly been hit multiple times, including by an LOPD car. Traffic approaching on Overlook
from the west cannot see pedestrians on the south corner and pedestrians can't see the traffic.
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Southbound traffic on Stafford routinely makes the right hand turn onto Overlook without stopping.
Traffic on Stafford northbound often runs the red light, perhaps because people are coming from a
more rural area and are not alert for more congestion. I use this crossing every day so I know these
things happen.
• Please build to immediate occupancy earthquake standards so it can be used as a shelter.
• possible direction flow problems. currently folks drive too quickly and erratically in the 365 parking lot on
43 in Lake Oswego.
• Put in a parking garage to save space
• Reduction of golf course to a 9 hole course is not a good option for golfers. There is room at lakeridge
middle school for this center. Also, you will not have enough parking at proposed site.
• Saying that the traffic on Stafford will be growing regardless shouldn't be an excuse to be a major
cause of that growth and congestion. Siting this facility on an already overtaxed road is a mistake.
• Significant increase in traffic to an already busy area. I am hopeful that the busy times for the different
locations (pool, golf, fields, dog park) won't all occur at the same time. Is there any thought that when
large events at the pool coincide with large use of Hazelia that additional event traffic management will
occur?
• Since I moved to LO 8 years ago, no new project has ever had enough parking! You can't use the pool
if you can't park your car so PLEASE, PLEASE provide enough spaces for years to come. Plan for the
worst case scenario and add 25%!
• Stafford/Mcvey road traffic is already getting congested and even backing up from 43 all the way up to
Southshore at times. This will make it increasingly worse. What are the plans to handle this increased
traffic? When New Seasons goes in close by, the roads are not equipped to handle this amount of
influx. A proper road plan does not appear to be proposed.
• Sufficient parking is a concern, but not enough of a concern to limit other use of outdoor space.
• The 4 way stop at Overlook and Treetop lane is currently too busy.
People speed on both Overlook and Treetop lane due to the back up of traffic on those roads leading to
the 4 way stop, Overlook will be the road used by everyone traveling west of Treetop lane to visit the
aquatic center. This is going to be a huge hardship for the Palisades Height neighborhood.
• The building should be built for ""immediate occupancy"" to be prepare for the Cascade Subduction
Zone earthquake.
• The facility should be designed with emergency preparedness in mind and, therefore, should be built to
IMMEDIATE OCCUPANCY earthquake standards so it can serve as emergency shelter after a major
earthquake.
• The general uptick in traffic. Just want to ensure there are turn lanes going into the property so traffic
doesn't get backed up
• The new golf course needs to be a high quality design and not just ""please the golfers with anything""
as I have heard from some non-players.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
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• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width
• The road outside the targeted space is really small. I am expecting the traffic will increase after the
recreation center open and hope there is plan to address that needs.
• The sight plan looks well thought out and the nine hole course looks much better than the 18 broken up
hole course they have now it should be a much better use of the space. I’m looking forward to the new
aquatic Center
• There need to be turn lanes on stafford - road widened
• This is a very special golf course and I oppose eliminating it. It is also busy enough during peak
season. Paring it to 9 holes and putting it next to a rec facility will completely change the nature of this
course.
• This is such a beautiful area to be outside. There should be outdoor classroom areas for exercising. Tai
chi, yoga, stretching, calisthenics, aerobics, CrossFit etc all work well outside. Also should include soft
surface running trails around the golf course.
• traffic and parking will always be concerns in lake oswego.
• Traffic backup onto road
• Traffic bottlenecking at Stafford and Overlook
• traffic coming from 205 onto Stafford
• Traffic impacts at the intersection of Stafford and Overlook.
• Traffic increase on Overlook. We live on the corner of overlook and Westridge and it is already very
busy.
• Traffic increase
• traffic issues, esp. with New Seasons going in down the street
• Traffic
• Traffic
• Two major concerns:
I have grave and ever increasing concerns about the cost. Building materials alone have increased
exponentially and show no signs of slowing. How will we afford the cost overruns when both sides have
a firm ceiling on the outlay.
Traffic from the center will bleed into the neighborhood if the pathway to Cloverleaf is built. Users,
especially parents -will- use it as a quick drop off for their children. It is already being used by the high
school. The reality is, there is nothing the school or the city can do to prevent it. No Path,
• Very disappointed with the golf course changes, which reduce the holes and the overall course
capacity. It is one of the few places I can golf with my kids who are beginning golfers.
• Walking jogging path as much of perimeter as possible please.
• We need more golf less pool. Go to Portland, we have a lake. It's a pandemic this makes zero sense
• Well thought out.
• What about an outdoor pool?
• What is the user cost. Per person (age relate), per family?
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• Where is bike parking? More and more people are using e-bikes to do trips like going to the gym. Is
there any way to reach the facility by bike besides risking life and limb on 43/State Street? After Covid,
people are going to rely more on personal transportation and sales of e-bikes continue to accelerate.
Suggest putting in space to park bikes and ability to charge e-bikes.
• Why aren't the ingress/egress points being sited to match up with existing intersections on Stafford Rd
for future traffic control (stop signs/lights)?
• Widening the streets / adding lanes in this area (McVey / Stafford) is very much needed. We already
are seeing traffic delays on these streets and when the Toll goes to I-205, more people will be taking
the Stafford / McVey artery from I-205 to State Street. We live on this street and I can attest to the fact
that there already is too much traffic. The golf course is in an older neighborhood that is not ready for
this sort of traffic and the number of people the project will draw.
• Will parking be adequate?
• Will the driving range be out of commission during construction?
• Will the parking lot offer charging stations for electric cars? Will the entrance and exits offer access to
emergency vehicles and large fire trucks?
• Will there be EV parking at the rec center? Spots to secure bicycles? Neither is clear from the plans
provided.
TRAFFIC. As it is CURRENTLY, traffic on Stafford is heavy and gets backed up at the
Overlook/Stafford intersection. This happens not just at commuting times, but on weekends with youth
(Parks & Rec as well as HS) activities. Do not like the idea of access to the facility via Overlook where
there may be heavy pedestrian traffic to the fields and dog parks at Luscher.
• Will there be food services at the golf course? Does there need to be space outside to enjoy eating.
• Will there be safe bike lanes/paths to access as well as bike racks?
• With both New Seasons and rec center going in on Stafford, may need to revisit stoplights on Stafford
• Would like to find a way to get public transit here eventually, particularly for youth.
Appendix 2: Concerns about the Proposed Competition Pool Design
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• Commenting as a referee for LHS/LOHS meets and a USAS official:
1. I concur with the HS and Club coaches that the competitive swimming field should be in the N/S
direction along the 25y dimension. There are many operational and training reasons to practice and
compete in the same direction, and there is no apparent reason for the expense and overhead of an
active turn wall to support competition in the E/W direction. As a referee, I would be responsible to
check bulkhead positioning at each meet and preserve the environment for lane length certification of
any records.
2. The Competition Pool requires access somewhere in the facility to an Officials/Coaches room for
pre-meet briefings and hospitality throughout the meet. The Officials/Coaches room is typically a multi-
purpose classroom or party room, with a white board (and ideally, sufficient electrical drops for
refrigerators and food warmers).
3. Given the requirement to maximize practice lanes, the design team should consider two options with
the stakeholders:
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- Eliminate the bulkhead to provide 13x usable 8ft lanes.
- Resize the N/S lanes to provide 14x 7.5ft lanes.
4. Not sure what is implied by ""deck level spectator seating"", but ideally it would be provided with
retractable bleachers that could be expanded as needed for competitions and retracted for practices to
provide additional deck space for dryland training.
5. I think this is obvious, but every swim lane requires a properly secured starting block, a clearly
marked lane line, and correctly positioned backstroke flags. (There was a major safety incident in
Oregon two seasons ago where four senior swimmers suffered concussions on turns because the
backstroke flags were not correctly positioned.)
6. The preliminary design should include placement of the scoreboard/clock, the meet management
desk and associated electronics, the starters console and other critical accessories for both swimming
and water polo. There is typically a devil in these details which impairs the ability to run efficient
meets/games.
Thanks for the opportunity to provide feedback and share concerns.
Bob Heymann
• Having only 9 lanes, 1 more lane than the present, will make zero difference to address the main issue
that there is majorly not enough pool space to accommodate the regional shortage of local pool space
available for club competition swimming and water polo. Both USA swim teams (Cascadia Swimming,
and LOSC), would still have to find other facilities (exactly as they do now, and it is not easy) to
accommodate the size of their respective team sizes, and both teams are over 90% Lake Oswego
resident swimmers, as well with water polo. The added extra dryland facilities in the proposed new
building are great to be sure. But the pool size, is massively disappointing, to say the least. A 50 meter
pool, would get completely filled and used, and then some, if it existed. At present design, the current
new pool design is just throwing away a significant revenue amount by the swim teams still having to
rent out other regional facilities, especially at the increased rental structures in place across the region.
A 50 meter pool would also be able to accommodate, for example, both high school swim teams and
water polo teams being able to practice at the same time during their respective seasons. That would
enable the club teams to swim earlier, and locally, without having to again, seek out and pay other
facilities in the region for pool space rentals during their displacement time (which again is lost revenue
to a Lake Oswego facility.) These are all very pressing concerns.
The additional side pool would be better off as completely separate, which would be accommodate a
warmer pool temperature to the large swim lesson program (that teaches a majority of Lake Oswego
and West Linn resident children how to swim and be water safe).
I have also lifeguarded (and more recently provided a lot of day-to-day pool maintenance) at the LOSD
pool over the past 15 years as well, and am quite familiar with it's usage for all groups that use it,
including recreational lap swimmers.
To me, just creating a barely slightly larger version of the existing pool, is extremely expensive, and an
extreme waste of finances and missed opportunity. I would think that the pool should be representative
of the community that uses it, and creating such a small pool, again, seems a disservice to the ever-
growing aquatic community in the area. The proposed 9 lane 25yd pool idea really needs to be just
scrapped. It would be better to just maintain the old pool until the larger pool can be built. There's also
the understanding of the debacle in the 70's?, where the community had voted to put in two pools, one
at each high school. And the funds were ""squandered"" aka, appropriated to pay for other things in the
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community, that were not voted upon, other than the second pool that the residents had actually voted
for. I hear about that story a lot from the older Lake Oswego resident lap swimmers (like from our
resident Olympic Gold Medal swimmer and his regular lap swimmer friends). I'd say, resurrect that
second pool that was reneged on, as combined with this plan, and just create the 50 meter pool that the
region could really use, and would actually be useful.
All the swim programs that currently would use it, would actually be able to grow as well in the case of
the larger pool (50 meter) and lesson pool. It would then be possible to provide much more renting
possibilities and such revenues to a larger region as well as better accomodating the local teams and
regular users. This current new pool design, plain ans simple, does not make sense. A new pool that is
50 meters, and with a side lesson (and with perhaps lap swimmer lanes), would make sense, for all
involved.
- David Hay
Coach - Cascadia Swimming (13 years, 2008 to present)
[Coach substitute to Lake Oswego Swim Club 2005-2008)
Coach - Rex Putnam HS Swim Team (14 years through present)
Lifeguard - Lake Oswego School District (15 years)
• I'm concerned about moving the bulkhead, starting blocks, back stoke flags and lane lines to go the
other direction for High school meets. It should be a north south set up all the time. The man power it
would take to do that is not realistic. I'm concerned there is no pool classroom space for lifeguard
training classes. Where will the manikins be stored, etc.? I don't see an area for electronic timing to be
placed for swim meets. I don't see space for athlete seating across from spectator seating. What is the
pool area capacity? I don't see space for existing lesson programs to be carried over to the new pool.
Pool temperature is too cold for lifeguard training classes and lessons.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width
• A railing between spectator area and pool is important to keep people distanced and not intrusive. Be
sure facility has Immediate occupancy earthquake standards
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• All water activities in one open area will mean high noise levels. I would like to see more separation
between the competition pool and the kids area recreation pool to improve sound control
• Are windows sited so as not to cause glare during competitions?
• Built to IMMEDIATE OCCUPANCY earthquake standards so it will still be standing after a major
earthquake and can also serve as an emergency shelter. Not doing this is short-sighted and
irresponsible.
• Competition pool should have daytime hours for community lap swimming
• Competition pool should have lanes available in daytime for lap swim by LO community. We do not
want evening hours. We are paying for this - this pool should not be only for LOSD school and outside
swim teams.
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• Cooling / Ventilation for the Pool areas. One of the downsides of most indoor pools I've visited is it's so
hot and humid in the pool area, especially for spectators. It can be uncomfortable. Having an
abundance of air-exchange is really important to have a pleasant environment around the pool. If there
could be large windows or vents (with screens to keep bugs and birds out) that are easily opened -
potentially automatically when the outdoor conditions are correct vs indoor conditions - that would be
really nice and maybe even environmentally friendly. I think ensuring the climate control in the pool
area works well is very important.
It would also be nice if the lap lanes could be used for exercising rec swimmers during hours where
there was not a competition.
• Cost overruns
• Cost to heat the pool
Traffic will be overwhelming; study was done during pandemic
• Do not care about spectator seating at pool area. Am concerned about the $'s for ongoing
maintenance!! Both city and school have a very poor track record for keeping up their properties. Look
at the existing pool at the high school compared to others of same age that are still in good shape.
What will be done to address ongoing maintenance issues?
• Great job - LO needs a good community center,
• Great!
• Have you been to any aquatic events in the District. They are jam packed with families and fans. You
need an identical set bleachers in the same place on the deck along the opposite wall. That wall and
deck space needs to be moved out and added now, not in the future. Let's not build a District
competition pool that our families can't fit in to watch our athletes. Build the basketball court later if you
need to find square footage to do this.
• Have you thought of having big glass garage doors in each of the pool sections so they can be open to
the outside- like in COVID times and also summer - have a sun deck
• How is this community pool going to be utilized by LOSD? There is already a pool at LO High School so
the LOSD should not be using both of these facilities. Obviously, with representatives from LOSD on
the committee, they expect to be using the new facility so our expectation is that the other pool should
be left for the community not LOSD.
How much access will the general taxpaying public be granted to this pool?
• I am concerned about swim competitions. The primary swim competition and practice field should be in
the north/south direction along the 25-yd width. There needs to be a diving area. Kids need to go off an
elevated surface and be able to save themselves for proper water safety instruction. Diving boards and
a diving area allow for the sport of diving to exist. Allows kids and adults to have an extra place to play.
Add a deeper area for diving: an L shaped pool allows for an additional diving pit area. The swim team
and diving teams can practice at the same time. Lifeguarding classes can use the diving area for
certification. Scuba training can take place in the diving area. To properly teach swim skills, lifeguard
skills, and water safety skills a swimmer needs to have a deep area to learn surface dives, deep dives,
retrieval in depths over 9 feet, knowing how to enter the water from a platform above water...etc.
Without the deep diving area Lake Oswego youth will be deficient in swim safety skills.
• I am disappointed that this pool is not a larger 50m pool. There is such a huge demand for pool space
in the LO community and surrounding area. I am concerned we have already outgrown this pool before
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it is even built. I hope the school district is able to keep the LOHS pool up and running in addition to the
new pool.
• I do not like the design and I am concerned about bulkhead swim competitions. The primary swim
competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd width. swim
teams should be able to practice starts at practice. There needs to be a diving area. Kids need to go off
an elevated surface and be able to save themselves for proper water safety instruction. Diving boards
and a diving area allow for the sport of diving to exist. Allows kids and adults to have an extra place to
play. Add a deeper area for diving. An L shape allows for an additional diving pit area. The swim team
and diving teams can practice at the same time. A Lifeguarding classes can use the diving area for
certification. Scuba training can take place in the diving area. Add a deep diving area with 3 boards. To
properly teach swim skills, lifeguard skills, and water safety skills a swimmer needs to have a deep area
to learn surface dives, deep dives, retrieval in depths over 9 feet, knowing how to enter the water from
a platform above water...etc This is going to make Lake Oswego youth deficient on swim safety skills.
• I do not understand why you would have the practice and competition directions different? Practices for
competition should be on the same lanes that the swimmers will compete. This makes no sense, unless
I am missing something.
Also, there is no ""deep"" section (12 feet plus). Lifeguards use deep water to teach, train and practice
water rescue. This is standard in competition pools. Also, I do not see any springboard diving areas.
Diving is a big part of the swimming pool world. It is also an opportunity for additional revenue through
teaching lessons and hosting competition. And it does not increase any risk in the pool that isn't already
in the current plan.
There are two or three pools in WA that have exceptional pools which meet the needs of swimming,
water polo, diving, water safety and swim lesson instruction etc., which employ an ""L"" shape. They fit
in small footprints and are able to accommodate and host multiple events.
I would hate to see this pool be designed short, giving up some of these other opportunities.
• I don’t understand the 3 lanes to the right of the 9 lanes
• I would love to see a diving space. Currently THPRD is the only diving space around and is very hard to
get to. Having a diving pool would be great and could draw a lot of people from the South metropolitan
area.
• I have concerns that is pool will not resolve scheduling issues. We have 2 HS water polo teams, 2 HS
swim teams and a club water polo and club swim team that use this pool, in addition to lessons and
community use. A “stretch” of what we already have (25 meter pool) is not going to resolve things. It
gives us at best a few extra lanes. All this money spent and by the time it’s built the community has
already outgrown it. What we need is a 50 meter by 25 meter main pool. So frustrating that it is a
community need going unmet.
• I hope the pool will be available to community members for lap swimming.
• I think the rec pool should be rectangular for lap swimming if there is a swim meet in the other pool.
• Also I think you are underestimating the amount of parking spaces required. There is no street parking
in that location.
• i want to ensure that water polo has real space for play and practice - the current pool situation is
unacceptable
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• Inadequate space for spectators for spacing for swim meets, already creating a crowd problem before it
is built. No space outside protected by elements if inside space isn’t allocated. This will be a nightmare
for swim meets for lifeguards to enforce not blocking the exits
• Is this building going to be built for an emergency shelter (immediate occupancy) for earthquake
• Just wish it could be a 50m pool
• Lap swimming for seniors very important. Programming and reservations important.
• Let's Go!
• Lifeguard room seems excessively large.
• No concerns. I really like that there are 12 short course lanes which could accommodate a masters
swimming program! I hope there will be a masters program here!
• No feeling about the rec center at all. Currently belong to a private gym and do not need it...
• No mention of use of competition pool for community lap swimmers. Only recreational section mentions
lap lanes which does not have enough lanes for the number of people who swim laps for exercise. At
least 4 are needed (which results in doubling up in busy times) but 6 to 8 is needed.
• Orientation is poorly designed, should be north/south aligned with spectators on the western side.
• Request that the lifeguard towers are located to minimize visual obstruction of spectators.
Will there be showers on the pool deck to allow swimmers to rinse off after exiting pool?
Will there be an electronic scoreboard, and will there be an area for operators of the scoreboard to sit
and observe the pool?
Request bleachers be deep enough to provide adequate legroom for spectators.
Why not have the bleachers extend all the way to the west edge of the building? The viewing of the
pool would be angled from this area, but it would be a great space for teams competing in events to
queue up between games without impacting spectators, or would provide overflow spectator seating for
popular events.
• Same as I already said - please provide enough lap lanes so can reserve 2-3 lanes for slow swimmers.
Ideally also lanes for medium speed and lanes for fast swimmers. Segregating these groups means
better swimming experience for all.
• Should be 50m Olympic regulation size.
• Spectator seating does not seem adequate for swim meets, need more seating
• The balance of funding and creating something that is usable for the community is always challenging. I
hope that you all are able to get close to the sweet spot :)
• The competitive layout's nine lanes is (literally) an odd number of lanes for a swim meet. Yet, I like the
overall design.
• The consensus of the swimming community is that the primary field of swim practice and competition is
in the North/South direction. There is extensive documentation provided about why you do not practice
in one direction and compete in another, including the risk of head strikes by swimmers on whom
you've changed the ambient lighting of the pool. There is a LOT of overhead to moving lane lines,
bulkhead, and re-anchoring starting blocks AND ensuring they are safe (""starting block anchors in the
W and N sides""). Finally, the spectators should not be staring directly into the Summer sunset direction
(see ""Park Views overlay"") - who came up with that suggestion? Everything the swimming community
has suggested has the spectators along the W side as the swimmers start on the N end.
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• The last (current) pool was not taken care of, so where are the ongoing maintenance and funding
plans?
• The pool is too small. The needs of water polo are being seen to by spending money to make the whole
pool deep but not enough consideration to pool size and usability for the entire community. You can't
make money on a pool people don't want to use because it's too crowded or too small.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width
• The primary swim competition and practice field needs to be in the north/south direction along the 25-
yd width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side. This will maximize the space we have to
enable more pool space for practice, and a more effective competition pool for all uses.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width.
• This city should have a 50 meter competition pool.
• This design does not provide nearly enough room for swimmers and spectators for swim meets. The
old facility already has this problem, and it is INCREDIBLY short-sighted to carry through the fault to a
brand new, expensive facility, and significantly limits the ability for the facility to bring in money.
• This looks great.
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• unclear if pool is half olympic size? Also, what about water aerobics classes--this seems too deep to
host that type of activity. is that intended for the other recreational pool?
• Very exciting!
• Water depth is a bit deep. I suggest that 3 lanes out of 8 lanes need to be 5 feet depth for beginners.
• We need more golf less pool go to Portland. We have a lake it makes no sense especially during a
pandemic
• Where are the locker rooms and changing rooms for the children for practice/competitions? The
changing rooms need to be set up separate and apart from restrooms to comply with USA Swimming
requirements for safety (preventing adults from entering child changing rooms, especially during
competition).
• Where is the diving board?
• Why so many competition lanes? Are these not included in the high schools?
• Will all pools be open to lap swimming at certain times of the day/night? What is the planned scheduled
use for various months of the year. What is the expected annual growth in usage? Will this facility be for
LO residents exclusively(competitions excepted)?. Without this detail it isn’t clear if there will be
adequate capacity
• Will it accommodate diving?
• Will the competition pool be open to lap swimmers in the community? Or is this solely for the use of the
school district?
• Will the pool be salt water so that poisonous chemicals are not used? Will the pool be chlorine-free?
• Will there be no diving in this pool?
• With this kind of investment and the increase in funding from school bond premium, it is a lack of
foresight to not include a competition size pool (25yard x 50m) with space for two HS water polo teams
or two HS swim teams to practice at the same time. much lie football or baseball do not have to
compete for the same space.
• Would be cool if there was an outdoor element to the pool
• Yes, lanes should be north south, not east west
• Younger kids should have some area too with less depth on one corner or somewhere with slide or a
small wading pool
Appendix 3: Factors for the Recreation Pool, “Other” Answers
• Containment (i.e. safety) of water slide area
• enough lap lanes so 2-3 lanes for slow swimmers
• family oriented
• Focus on greatest usage to generate revenue. Also to build community by greatest use of pool.
• Golf course
• Hard to say - the drawings are not completely marked as to what is what
• I belonged to lifetime fitness for 10 years and the indoor slide was rarely used.
• I don’t' see enough instructional and lap swim space. The tot and slide play areas are too big. There
needs to be a 5ft' depth. The 1ft' depth is not practical use of space. The play area should be smaller.
• I like separating the lap lanes from the slide
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• Is 3 lap lanes a possibility?
• Is there a strong reason for the rec pool to have lap lanes when the other pool already has lap lanes?
would be nice to keep it for family use.
• keeping Tots away from adults
• lanes should be closest to comp pool to better separate tots from rec/comp swimmers
• Lap lane area away from water slide
• Lap lane separation
• lap lanes blocked off from other areas
• lap pool
• lap swim availability
• lap swimming
• Maximus mount of lap lanes
• Money to fund choices
• Need lap lanes for athletic competition
• Number of lap lanes. 6 to 8 is optimum, but at least 4
• Option 2 is bad because people and kids will cut through the lap lanes to get to the pool and the tot and
plunge areas are divided. Traffic will interfere with lap swimmers.
• Outdoor area adjacent to pool
• Private dressing area
• Separate changing room for kids.
• slide
• Slide plunge should be separate from open swim area due to hazard.
• Spa close to lifeguard offices & emphasis on adults in spa
• Sufficient lanes and space for lap swimmers is critical, as is water temperature. Lap swimmers sharing
a very warm pool with toddlers raises sanitation concerns and the possibility of frequent pool closures.
Will the competition pool be available for lap swimmers when not being used for an event?
• The water slides should not be by the spa...group the water slide and tot area together, spa and lap
lanes together... in ideal world spa should be separate, but definitely not by the water slides
• To have kids coming down the slide right into the pool area will cut off a lot of the swim space. The
safest and most practical is #2 - and having one more spot in the spa is a good addition.
• Tot and pool area should be closest to locker rooms. Lap areas farther away so the kids don't go
through giving lap lanes better separation from the pool traffic.
• Use of plunge area while water slide is in use
• Water slide plunge area separated from (or at least on side of) the open water area, not right in the
middle of it.
• You are cheating our seniors and families of young children (warm water swim lesson program and
aquatic programs) who require 2 to 4 additional (4to 6 total) warm water lanes. Forgo the basketball
court for now and build it later if you must, but don't build a short sighted aquatic center that short the
young children and seniors of their warm water swim lessons and aquatic aerobic exercise program
and lap swim space.
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Appendix 4: Additional Comments, General
110 comments
• All options regarding the pool design would not record.
• Am in favor of space for exercise classes - which I will attend as long as the price is competitive with
joining a fitness center. Classes at the Adult Center used to be competitive and then they were raised
so high that it was not affordable to go there when compared with 24 Hour Fitness.
• Be sure facility has Immediate occupancy earthquake standards. If the city is planning to build new
facilities they should be up to standards where they can be used in emergency preparation/ use.
• Being a swimmer and former parent of a competitive swimmer I agree with many others that the
primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• Build to immediate occupancy earthquake standards so it can be used as a shelter.
• Built to IMMEDIATE OCCUPANCY earthquake standards so it will still be standing after a major
earthquake and can also serve as an emergency shelter. Not doing this is short-sighted and
irresponsible.
• Changing the door design to sliding doors where feasible will gain enormous space. Especially in
smaller rooms/spaces.
• Dive area/pit needs to be included for proper swim safety education and making every Lake Oswego
swimmer more prepared for any swim or accidental water situation.
• Dreamt of a community pool in LO my whole life! Amazing!!
• Excellent for city to invest in this project of pool and gym that will provide exercise, entertainment for
children and parents. It’s important to have recreational activities available to the young and old. I am
excited to learn there will be indoor gym areas for yoga and fitness.
• Excited about the project. I wish the pool could be partly outdoors. There is a municipal pool in Twin
Falls Idaho which has a seasonal covering over it, or is uncovered seasonally. It’s a wonderful public
project. Or if it’s not possible to do the pool outdoors, to have the sides retractable would be great. I’m
able to swim in an outdoor pool and it keeps the winter blues away. Also it illuminates air quality
problems and virus control issues. If it’s possible, the lap pool could be outdoors and the recreation
pool could be indoors. I know the outdoor pool where I go is a huge draw, but I wish it was publicly
available for more people and families. Also a walking trail and jogging trail around the entire perimeter
would be great. I know the Oregon city municipal golf course has a Trail around most of the course and
it goes in and out of the neighborhood a little bit. It creates a lot of recreation opportunity, and when
combined with the weight room or classes that would be very helpful. Multipurpose is what makes it
multi participant supported, which helps the economics. Good luck glad this is finally happening.
• For the rec pool, I'm curious why you are using some of that space for lap swimming when there is a
large lap pool next door. You could significantly increase the play area in the rec pool if that space is
made for more general use.
• Glad to see there is a water slide for the older kids to have fun with. Important to have large open water
area for kids to swim in and have fun. Zero entry and easy steps are important for youngsters and
seniors to easily enter and exit the pool. Where the spa is located is not so important as having a big
enough recreational pool for year round swimming. Cant wait for pool to open to do my lap swims and
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have my grandkids come all the time. Hope they can use the competitive pool when they get older. It
will be well used by people in the community.
Will there be rooms for families to rent out for birthday parties and the like?
• Has any of this design accounted for the probability that another pandemic will occur? The emphasis on
special purpose areas like the gym, spa, and play area is misplaced in our opinion. Gyms were
decimated during Covid and are barely operating now. Cardio and weight rooms are typically the
highest utilized areas and devoting a huge area to a space like a basketball court which sits empty a lot
of the time during the day is a bad idea.
• Hope you can finalize this project soon - sounds wonderful for LO - and get the building started.
• Hoping the temperature of the rec swimming pool will be quite a bit warmer than the competitive pool.
Really consider the kids sliding into the middle of the rec pool; I've been in these before and it's nerve
wracking as a parent watching kids fly into the middle of the pool. It needs to be a separate area.
• How is the 1 1/2% being incorporated into the design?
• How many lanes are present in the recreational pool? This pool is quite a bit smaller than the
competition pool.
• I am hoping that there will be a large and well-equipped weight training area, with an emphasis on free
weights, and especially barbells. I also would love to see a variety of classes and rec leagues held
there for both children and adults (fitness, sports, dance, art, music, etc.).
• I am sad it will be so far away, hard for me to access from Oswego Grill/Westlake... I think West Linn
may benefit more.
• I am still waiting to see how much this facility will cost and what can be built for $30,000,000 - The city
keeps asking for our input and I question that even the basic plan can be built for the budgeted amount
let alone all of the ""want to haves"". Has anyone noted that construction costs have skyrocketed? I will
reserve judgement until I see the budget.
• I am very disappointed that the main purpose of this facility is almost entirely sporting. What about the
arts? Surely a stage could be added to the gym so that arts groups could perform there. There is a
terrible lack of space in the area for arts performances since the school auditoriums are not reliably
available.
• I am very impressed with the design options and happily surprised with the commitment shown to this
facility. I had not heard (conclusively) about shrinking the golf course from 18 holes to nine, but that
seems like a reasonable decision.
• I am wondering if the final will allow enough space to include a teen lounge again, as was at Palisades.
• I cannot tell from the diagrams where the showers will be or if there will be adequate numbers of
showers.
Please keep the family changing rooms!! Excellent feature!!
• I find it highly offensive that input about a recreation project is somehow related to my ethnicity, income
level, or gender. I am a L.O. resident and I have owned a home near the project for many years and
pay L.O. taxes. What difference does it make what race I am?
• I have concerns that is pool will not resolve scheduling issues. We have 2 HS water polo teams, 2 HS
swim teams and a club water polo and club swim team that use this pool, in addition to lessons and
community use. A “stretch” of what we already have (25 meter pool) is not going to resolve things. It
gives us at best a few extra lanes. All this money spent and by the time it’s built the community has
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already outgrown it. What we need is a 50 meter by 20 meter main pool. So frustrating that it is a
community need going unmet.
• I have never been in favor of this project because I think changing the golf course from an 18 hole
course to a 9 hole course is a bad idea. I think it will be difficult to field players on the course for the
group play and various events that happen at the course. Since this is a done deal, I can only hope the
course will stay viable and remain open for the future.
• I like the overall concept of the whole site and think a lot of thoughtfulness has been given to it.
• I saw a schedule on LOSD site that shows only 3 hrs per day lap swimming. Community members
should have more access to lap swim all day
• I see no plans to take emergency preparedness into consideration in the design of the building.
Designing to ""Immediate Occupancy"" standards at the time of construction is much cheaper than
retrofitting the building afterwards (as is being done on school gymnasiums). And a facility with such a
large footprint with such a variety of large internal spaces would be an excellent refuge site, or
command site, in the event of a major disaster (such as Cascadia Fault Rupture). I think the plans
should be revised to prepare the building for such emergency uses: structurally, as well as emergency
power, communication, and perhaps even medical, water and food supplies. Thank you for your
consideration.
• I think it is important to keep the facility balanced for many interests and needs, as there are many
retired people, but also families with kids, and many in between.
• I think it looks Great! Thank you!
• I think the most important thing for the pool areas and maybe even the whole facility are very good
climate control. Air temperature, air circulation, humidity all need to be controlled to make this a nice
environment. Allowing the decks and surfaces to dry out from good drainage and dry air circulation can
help prevent maintenance issues like mold, moss, staining, window cleaning, bugs, etc and make it a
comfortable space. Most indoor pools I’ve been to have problems in this area. The more this can be
controlled efficiently through ventilating with outside air the better. Automating the climate controls /
ventilation / air exchange to the outside could ensure it is being addressed when needed instead of
asking someone to open windows or leave the door open, etc. Even sunshades on the windows could
be automated to keep out the hot summer sun when needed. The winter sun might be welcomed to
warm the space if needed. Paying up front to make sure this is addressed could be a cost savings
trying to remedy any issues later as well as maintenance. Also, the more people want to attend and use
the space, the more cash flow in.
What about renewable energy? Solar panels on the roof to help with electricity costs and offset carbon
footprint could be a viable long-term solution.
• I think the tots should have their own pool.
More parking.
3 pools, the rec pool should be rectangular.
• I think to do this justice a strictly aquatic center is best. None of the rest.
• I use the golf as a great practice facility. It helps me tune my game so I feel more confident on a full
size 18 hole course. The course redesign needs to accommodate us and not just throw something
together. It seems that Parks and Rec panders to the tennis players so lets take care of the golfers with
the same attitude. There are a lot of high handicap and new players that love the course. Do it right!
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• I wonder if there is enough cardio and instructional workout rooms. Seems like having one class at a
time will not meet the needs of Lake Oswego. Was there any consideration for having a child/toddler
room for parents to check their kids in while they work out. Does there need to be more meeting space
too? I look at Conestoga Rec and Aquatic Center, it has everything.
• I would ditch the weight and cardio area, and put in more pool and fun for kids
• I would flip the meeting rooms and the electrical rooms - so meeting rooms are farther from the pool
• I would like the outdoor pool to be larger, as well as add a diving board.
• I would like to see a wheelchair lift for pool access.
• I would like to suggest that the art space have room for 6 -10 pottery wheels and a kiln and sink.
• I would love to see more basic amenities rather than spending lots of space and money on a water
slide and weight room. I think more open space in the pool / deck and another gym / basketball court
would be used by more people. This feels like it is way more than is needed to be a wonderful
community spot.
• I wrote most of it out earlier in this survey. Basically, unless the new facility is inclusive of a 50 meter
pool, it needs to be scrapped to the drawing board. It would not make sense, at all.
• I'd like to see the space for the existing aquatic programs at the LO district pool to continue. I don't see
that happening in the current designs. It seems there is to much emphasis on play time vs. learning,
and lap swim. I'd like the rec pool to be large enough to hold 5-6 lap lanes. The instructional area being
used at the LO District pool on the weekends is 6 lanes. The 1 ft area is to shallow and not practical.
The slide is to big. I'd like a deep end in the rec pool. 78-82 degrees is to cold to learn skills, diving, or
lifeguard training.
• I'm concerned by the addition of recreational fitness to this facility. That's not what the school bond
funding this facility was about. If there is a desire for indoor recreational/exercise space, it needs to be
put elsewhere with separate funds. This location cannot handle the increase in traffic nor parking that
would come from having those amenities here. I'm not sure who you are getting input from, but it
definitely HAS NOT been from people who live in direct proximity to this project that will have to deal
with the fallout for years from poor planning and unrealistic traffic and parking projections. I received
NO notification about this proposed construction (within 750 feet of my house) until I stumbled upon it in
a school district weekly newsletter. At least the real estate market is hot to sell my house now...
• I'm very excited about the design of the facility. It looks like a great addition to our city and is just what
Lake Oswego families are looking for. Nice work!
• I'm very excited about the plans for this facility! I'm hoping to participate in a masters swim program
here and my kids would love the slide in the rec area! New indoor basketball space and a fitness center
is also a big plus!
• Important to look at spaces welcoming for seniors as well as children, younger adults spa is magnet for
kids overwhelming adult enjoyment, fitness classes for various levels, rec pool temperature a bit
warmer for seniors comfort.
• In response to our calls to the golf course manager about receiving range balls in our back yard, we
were told that 'they would lower the tees'. Brilliant. That was a month ago. We still get the occasional
range ball. I have no faith or confidence that extending the range will help. An average golfer can hit a
driver 300 yards; easily if the 'plan' is to add an upper level to the driving range. Additionally, the
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houses beyond the first green will be peppered with not only tee shots but also errant fairway shots. I
suggest reversing the hole somehow.
• Is there any consideration to becoming a ""Senior Advantage"" partner (e.g. allowing use of the facilities
as a partner with a Medicare provider)?
• It is important to build it to earthquake standard IMMEDIATE OCCUPANCY. The community needs
every means to be prepared for the big one and it would be foolish not to take this opportunity.
• It should be able to have 25 meter length lanes for competitive swimmers could train
• I've learned that despite all of the input of the swimming community about the form and practical
function of the competition pool, the design firm is intent on building a completely unworkable pool. You
don't train in one direction and compete in another. You don't have the spectators looking into the sun.
You don't ask the City P&R staff to move the starting blocks, flags, and lane lines every time you run a
HS meet (every TH night Nov-Feb) and for the US Swim meets (F-Sun).
• Lack of specifics as to how Rec facilities will be used- lined for basketball and yet we already have
plenty of indoor basketball options in LO but no firm lines/details on Pickleball which has no indoor
playing options in LO yet plenty of proven outdoor facility usage, player commitment; player growth.
• Looking forward to the completed project.
• Love the additions and the golf course improvement.
Where are the tennis courts? Why did they leave the tennis courts off the plan when LOTC is always
full and makes money?
• Make sure the rising and setting sun don't impact visitors' experience.
It seems to be very difficult to ensure that locker rooms do not become moldy or infested with humidity-
loving bugs. Need to make sure there's excellent air flow and humidity controls.
• Mostly interested in the lap pools. I think it is important to take into account what we have learned from
the pandemic and all the social distancing measures and how it has affected our need for physical
activity and safe social gatherings. I appreciate the full spectrum of activities and use of land/space.
• Much needed. Good job planning and getting feedback.
• My only comment/concern is how long it’s taking to get this project moving forward. My sons have
swam in the pool since kindergarten and it’s so incredibly disappointing that both will graduate without
ever having a chance to do swim team or water polo in a nice pool. The current facility is on its last
legs...plz get this going ASAP!!!
• No - Let's Go!
• Options do not indicate number of lap lanes available for community use. Six to eight is best but 4 is
minimum. I only see two lanes in these designs. THAT IS NOT ENOUGH. Community lap users are not
even mentioned or considered. Given this is supposed to include community use it does not address
those that use the pool several times a week for lap swimming. You really screwed up.
• Please consider also using this as an emergency shelter for when the need arises in our community.
(Built to immediate occupancy earthquake standards).
• Please consider redesign of deck space so that we do not turn this new facility into a problem as it
already is at LOSC . The lifeguards will have a horrible time enforcing deck seating without blocking
exits. Why not create a protected outdoor space for spectators?
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• Please ensure you maximize the pool size for maximum use for competition. We have limited pools
available and we would miss an opportunity if this rec center ignored minor changes to enable more
teams/swimmers to utilize the pool.
• Please make plenty of space available for daytime lap swimming for lo community
• Please take care to ensure traffic will not get worse -- McVey (which leads to Stafford) already is a
traffic nightmare most hours of the day
Please be sure to use salt water and NOT chlorine
thanks!
• Pleased to see bathroom design unlike the Lakeridge Junior High School all-gender/identity shared
model. The LJHS model is a political statement and nothing more. Could have easily incorporated
several bathrooms throughout school for individuals to accommodate EVERYONE...but have now
introduced several problems which could easily have been avoided. This will be addressed throughout
the next school building bond renewal...I am afraid the architects and school board, and all those
involved, have damaged the reputation of this community to support further capital investments that
have now become campaign positions/statements instead of providing value to the community.
• Portland Parks and Recreation's Southwest Community Center has an excellent pool area and worth a
comparison.
• Rock walls/bouldering walls are popular and good for kids of all ages, inside or out. It would be nice to
incorporate. I’ve heard a few parents mention this.
• Since there is no other place to voice concerns regarding the overall building plan, I shall voice them
here: having been to a number of other public pools in Hillsboro and the Portland area, I will state
unequivocally that you have NOT provided family changing areas for your estimated 125 swimmers,
most of whom, most of the time, are likely to be small children and parents; your men's and women's
locker rooms MAY be too small, I do not see that you have made adequate accommodations for
seniors (another major user group) and the disabled; and that you are definitely missing a chance to
increase revenues by only having 2 spaces that can be used for children's parties or other events, and
even those don't seem to be placed for optimum movement between the recreational pool area and the
venue spaces. Please talk about this, and have the architects, who (based on the present plan) do not
appear to be very well-informed regarding this type of building, at least visit some area facilities and talk
to staff there about what works and what doesn't, which definitely appears not to have been done
before coming up with this proposed building. One important question that you missed in these Final
Questions is family size/number of children. As I noted above, my observations in taking my kids to
various pools, for recreation, parties, and swimming lessons (which appears to be another unaddressed
consideration in the plan, unless I missed it) are that kids (especially under 16) are a major pool-use
demographic.
• Spa is not as important as having a family area and a competition pool for school water sports. A 5
person spa is large enough for athletes
• Surprised by the lack of environmental concerns in this plan. What green features are planned for this
facility and the construction thereof?
• Thank you for this great interactive virtual tour!!
• Thanks for asking for input on a website rather than requiring me to attend a meeting. :)
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• The aquatic center has unnecessarily expanded to include facilities unrelated to aquatic recreation or
fitness.
• The facility should be designed with emergency preparedness in mind and, therefore, should be built to
IMMEDIATE OCCUPANCY earthquake standards so it can serve as emergency shelter after a major
earthquake.
• The most important thing is swimming lessons for kids, we have had to take our kids to every other
town in Portland to try and get swim lessons during none working hours. We are a city with a lake and
we do not have easy access to swimming lessons. On a another note why does there need to be a lap
section in the recreation pool, is the large lap pool next to it really not enough. We frequently visit the
Portland rec center pools in SW and Mt Scott and neither have lap lanes in the family recreation area.
• The non-pool part of the building must be designed for ""IMMEDIATE OCCUPANCY"" earthquake
standards - as are all the school district's gyms.
The structure would be an important addition to the City's emergency preparedness if designed for
immediate occupancy.
In time of major earthquake the pool offers a source of water once appropriately filtered. Solar panels
on the roof could supply power in the event of an emergency.
Build this amenity to improve the City's emergency preparedness, it won't cost much more, but will offer
real benefit in a crisis.
• The overall facility seems very small. I'm concerned that there will be so much more demand than the
space allows.
• The pool area maps could be better labelled. I am concerned about ""tot"" safety and security.
Everything seems so open with no consideration for keeping little ones safe. Where do the responsible
care people sit to watch them without it also being too easy to socialize and loose track of the little
ones.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The primary swim competition and practice field should be in the north/south direction along the 25-yd
width. Spectators should be seated on the western side.
• The question as to race/ethnicity suggests that you are considering either or both in the design of the
facility. We are all human with the same basic needs for exercise and recreation. The sooner we stop
prioritizing these things that divide us as Americans and humans, the sooner we’ll find harmony in our
country and the world. Of course their are cultural differences but the basic needs of this facility should
not be so nuanced as to include these differences in the design. I would like to think the more we do
things that move us all toward a common American culture regardless of our origins or background the
better off we’ll all be.
• The spa is unnecessary. Drop it.
The spa next to the tot areas is problematic. Why should adults without young children have to hear &
see kiddie play?
The slide seems excessive as does the kiddie area. What happened to regular water play and
swimming?
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Feels like the huge wish list is going to make for expensive membership. I.E. just wanting to lap swim
will require paying for money losing golf and kiddie play ground.
Is a gym really necessary with public school gyms available for leagues?
Guessing need for multi use rooms and classes will out perform need for full bb court?
• There are lots of private clubs in the community that have weights and cardio and to a lesser extent
gym capacity; however there is not much capacity for pool and lap swim Also the private sector can
satisfy growing demand by increasing facilities for weights and cardio much easier than pool capacity
which has high capital and Operations and maintenance. Seems like aquatic exercise, swim instruction
and recreation is a more appropriate role for the city. Swimming instruction is very important for youth
health, fitness and safety. All children should have eat opportunity for reasonably priced swim
instruction Swimming is a form of exercise that benefit all ages and conditions with weight bearing
limitations. Swimming should be focus of facility
• There needs to be more equipment storage off the group fitness room, ideally several separate rooms
so some programming providers (rowing, for instance) would have secure storage for their equipment.
• These facilities need to be made earthquake proof and be able to serve immediately as an earthquake
community shelter after. There is no mention of these requirements in your plan.
• This is the worst ridiculous idea I've ever heard.
• This project seems very inward focused. For the siting at such a beautiful area, opportunities to
exercise outside should be considered as part of this design.
• This should have been about the pool . It should be a 50 meter competition pool . Not an entertainment
center
• Too much space is going to non pool areas when the pool itself is too small. Why are there lap lanes in
the rec pool? This shows you know the main pool is too small.
• We are very excited about this facility and looking forward to it. Thank you for effectively reaching out to
gather input from the community!
• We have a special needs child. Would love to see consideration for those with special needs in the
planning stage. Thank you.
• What will happen to the existing pool on the Lake Oswego High School campus?
• What will the redesign of the golf course look like and when will it be open? Will the driving range be out
of commission during construction?
• Where is the racquetball/ pickle ball courts? Hey can’t be shared with the gym / basketball court?
• Why is the Mom room tucked way in the back??? I can guarantee a Mom is lugging around bags
strollers kids etc etc, let’s make their live easy and give them easy access to fed their babies, dress
their families, or whatever it is they need to do.
• Will construction be held accountable to a timeline?? the location of this project has the capacity to be a
severe disruption to an already heavy traffic corridor and knowing how Skanska has not been held
accountable I would hope the City would be more proactive and transparent on the timeline and
expense of this project
• Will pool have a room to rent for birthday parties, etc? This is a great revenue maker for the City. Will
draw in families and youth groups. Have a food/drink package to buy. Maybe partner with Bellagios or
Dinos pizza. Maybe golf restaurant can have a pizza/salad party package?
• Will Silver and Fit members be able to use the facility at no cost?
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Also, hope the schedule will provide ample time for lap swimming.
• Will the competition pool be available for lap swimming when it is not being used for swim team
practices and swim meets? It seems a shame to construct a swim facility and not provide adequate
opportunities for community members to lap swim.
• Wish there was additional space for lap swimmers - preferably in a cooler pool separate from toddlers.
Wish there was interest in building an outdoor pool, as well as an adult only pool. Hope the competition
pool will be available to lap swimmers when events are not being held in that pool.
• Would love a saltwater pool consideration
• Would love workout space to accommodate team training in the off season (is speed and agility work)
Facility will be totally unappealing if overrun with young kids / need to separate for adults and older
(HS) athletes
• Did you consider a Hot and Cold plunge??
• You compromised and struck a balance by choosing the smaller stretch competition pool over the
olympic competition cold water pool for our district and club athletes. But having done that, you must
now build out the necessary deck space for bleachers (both sides) and add in the 4-6 lanes (2-4 more)
of warm water lap lanes to have a robust warm water family swim lesson program and senior lap swim
and aerobic and other warm water aquatic programs that will serve our community families for the next
50 years. You can't add those to your design later. It is less challenging add Gymnasiums and
additional exercise rooms on later as appendages. But you can't add more warm water lanes later. You
have to get that correct not for the next 50 years. Let's get the aquatic center properly sized for both the
warm and cold water needs of all our youth and families including seniors who were (pre-COVID)
sharing 6 (25 yard) warm water lanes for their programs.