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Agenda Item - 2001-08-07 - Number 4.4.4 - 4.4.4 08/07/01 MINUTES OF JULY 10, 2001 SPECIAL MEETING 83 (----- CITY COUNCIL MORNING MEETING MINUTES July 10, 2001 z�� \ Mayor Judie Hammerstad called the special City Council meeting to order at 7:31 a.m. on July 10, 2001, in the City Council Chambers. Present: Mayor Hammerstad, Councilors Rohde, Schoen(left at 8:30 a.m.), Turchi, Graham and McPeak. Councilor Hoffman was excused. Staff Present: Doug Schmitz, City Manager; David Powell, City Attorney; Jane McGarvin, Deputy City Recorder; Ron Bunch, Government Affairs Liaison; Bob Kincaid, Chief of Staff 3. STUDY SESSION • The Council considered Agenda Item 3.3, Rivergrove Sewer extension, at this time. 3.1 Sustainable Development Ron Bunch, Government Affairs Liaison, introduced Bob Doppelt from the Center for Urban Watershed Environment in the Mark Hatfield School of Government at Portland State University. He mentioned that there was a lot of work being done on sustainable development at the state and national levels, as they began to address the issues of local climate changes, energy renewability, social equity and urban systems and urban sprawl. Mr. Bunch presented a PowerPoint presentation relating to sustainability. He mentioned the two things most important for cities like Lake Oswego, which sustainable development addressed: quality of life and economics. He indicated that they had to do things differently because of the increasing costs and underfunded urban infrastructure that they all faced. Mr. Bunch said that today staff was asking the Council to consider entering into an intergovernmental agreement with the Mark Hatfield School of Government, Executive Leadership Institute, to work with the City, at a reasonable cost,to assemble a sustainability program from the City of Lake Oswego. He emphasized that sustainability meant making a transition towards principles and practices that worked for Lake Oswego and allowed staff to begin to examine the City's processes and procedures to find ways of doing things that would ensure that the City enhanced both the natural and the social capital of the community. Mr. Bunch reviewed what was meant by `sustainable development' and `sustainable community.' (pages 2 and 3). He commented that people were driven by the principles of self- interest, which required maintaining a vital economy, but at the same time they had to maintain nature's ability to function in order to absorb the wastes, recycle them and provide the renewable resources that were necessary for life. Mr. Bunch reviewed some unsustainable practices and conditions (page 4) in contrast to the principles of sustainability (page 5). He noted that there was no template for sustainability; each community had to develop its own methods for sustainability in meeting its own needs. Mr. Bunch presented the two principles underlying the concept of sustainability: natural capital and social capital (pages 6 and 7). He noted that people existed in a social context; without a quality functioning social environment, man's interactions devolved into chaos. He cited Lake Oswego's Boards and Commissions as examples of social capital growing stronger through use. He emphasized that social capital came from the people themselves; neither governments nor private interests could create it. City Council Morning Meeting Minutes Page 1 gf 9 c r July 10, 2001 Mr. Bunch indicated that the sixth bullet "People Being Instrumentalized (Manipulated)" should read"People Resist Being Instrumentalized (Manipulated)." He argued that people came together in a natural way based on the principles of self-interest; governing groups could not form groups of people to do their bidding. Mr. Bunch spoke to social capital as fragile because of the competing interests people had for their emotional commitments and time. He held that for people like himself to invest their social capital in something to benefit the civic life, it had to be worth it. He pointed out that social capital decayed in the presence of institutional duplicity or direct assault. He emphasized that social capital was essential for a sustainable community. Mr. Bunch reviewed the nine elements of the architecture of sustainability (page 8). He noted that `green the city' did not necessarily involve beautification. Mr. Bunch reviewed the elements of quality governance (page 9). He mentioned that he preferred the term `governance' because `government' sometimes meant `doing things right' as opposed to `doing the right thing.' Mr. Bunch reviewed the government problem (page 10). He explained that 'a reductionist institutional culture' meant taking a complex problem, cutting it up finely and parceling the parts out to each segment of an institutional culture for problem-solving but never reassembling the parts into the whole in order to look at the problem in a holistic manner. He discussed the solution to the government problem using sustainability (page 11). Mr. Bunch commented that Lake Oswego has done a great deal in the past in terms of transitional actions towards sustainability. However, they did these actions individually, and not in the context of a holistic program. He observed that, based on his research of the Comprehensive Plan from 1975, Lake Oswego citizens had an almost intuitive feeling about sustainable actions. He described the Plan over the last 30 years as the community's efforts to do sustainable actions in both natural and social capital (page 12). Mr. Bunch stated that if Lake Oswego was serious about a sustainable program, then they needed to undertake these initiatives in a holistic and comprehensive program. Mayor Hammerstad commented that this was timely, given the Council's upcoming mid-year review. Mr. Doppelt thanked Councilor Rohde for inviting him and Mr. Bunch for working with him. He said that over the past five years he has been involved in developing policies, programs and governance systems for sustainability. He concurred with Mr. Bunch that the issue around sustainability was governance, and not government per se. He indicated that they started at the state level;the Governor issued an Executive Order on sustainability. Mr. Doppelt described a project he worked on through the League of Oregon Cities in which representatives from 10 communities worked with the Institute to develop a possible template for a sustainable development program, and the steps to get there for local governments. He presented the two-part report from that study: Context and Background, and the template itself. He mentioned that, at this point in time, four of the communities involved in developing the template were moving towards developing sustainable development programs. Mr. Doppelt indicated that the Institute's goal was to provide new information and assistance to local governments with respect to sustainable development programs, as well as to train its graduate students in sustainability. He reviewed the services offered by the Institute: facilitating discussions, providing direct technical assistance and providing research. Mr. Doppelt noted that cost savings was one of the key outcomes of a sustainable development program, beginning with the low hanging fruit' of the easy steps and gradually working towards the harder steps. He mentioned a sustainability program called"The Natural Step,"which he pointed out was not called "The Natural Leap." He emphasized that local governments should take their time in systematically working through the steps that would lead to sustainability. City Council Morning Meeting Minutes Page 2 of 9 July 10, 2001 86 Mr. Doppelt said that another key outcome was the improvement of livability. He noted that the communities that took the lead on these programs tended to end up as regional leaders with other communities looking to them for leadership. He observed that, consequently, sustainable development tended to provide a positive affirmation within the community for both the citizens and the City government employees. He commented that it had the same effect in the private sector. Mr. Doppelt presented a series of overheads. He explained that sustainable development was important because pollution and waste were growing in Oregon at or above the rate of population growth and of economic growth(Oregon State of the Environment Report). He reviewed the statistics illustrating that Oregonians were generating more waste and faster than the economy was growing. He stated that they could not keep up with that level of generation. Mr. Doppelt explained that waste was a surrogate indicator of the economic impacts throughout the entire economic value chain,which meant that there was more material moving through the state's economic system. He defined waste as 'a sign of inefficiency in the economy or in the government or in the private firm.' He argued that waste was the resources and capital that someone has already acquired and purchased but did not receive any benefit from. Mr. Doppelt held that waste and inefficiency were a sign of a design failure. He argued that the point at which people squeezed out waste and inefficiency was the point at which they also found the cost savings. Mr. Doppelt presented the first definition of`sustainability' devised by the Bruntland Commission in 1987 as a compromise between a number of countries: meeting the needs of the present without compromising the ability of the future generations to meet their own needs. He said that what that meant was that each generation was now responsible for the next generation. He discussed the conclusion by some countries that if this generation was responsible for the next one, then this generation had to solve its environmental problem in order to pass on a healthy environment to the next generation; if the next generation messed it up again,then it was their job to clean it up before passing it on to the next generation. Mr. Doppelt presented a more specific definition that worked better for policy development: to systematically eliminate inefficiencies, design flaws and toxicity. He said that toxicity generated the waste emissions yet nature had no waste. He explained that the Institute's goal for a community was to focus towards zero waste and zero emissions, although they might never completely reach it. Mr. Doppelt used the example of designing and manufacturing a chair to illustrate that 80% to 90% of the environmental impacts of production were generated or determined during the research and development stage, and not during the manufacturing stage, which was where most people saw the impacts. He contended that most environmental programs today focused on the downstream end of manufacturing stage, instead of on the design stage. Mr. Doppelt described sustainable development as trying to move upstream to the design phase, and to design products correctly the first time or to redesign slowly but surely the established products in order to design out the inefficiency problems. He said that the same example worked for community design; they needed to design out the problems at the beginning because the choices made during the design phase determined the impacts downstream. Mr. Doppelt spoke to people no longer looking at the environment as an add-on issue; once the product, program, or neighborhood has been constructed, the only way to mitigate the environmental impacts was to add on something. He pointed out that a clean up or mitigation technology was costly but it was the traditional way the United States has focused on environmental issues. He emphasized that they wanted to transition away from `add-on' to integrating environmental considerations into every type of decision made in an organization. Mr. Doppelt observed that every decision the Council made today it put through a screen of financial consideration; the idea was to add an environmental screen to the process with City Council Morning Meeting Minutes Page 3 of 9 July 10, 2001 8 1 consideration of the environmental impacts of the decision. He reiterated that the addition of this criterion did lead to significant cost savings. Mr. Doppelt described the process as looking for opportunities to 1) reduce the flow of materials and resources the government used, 2)use those materials more efficiently (get more from the flow), and 3) find a way to reuse the end of life products (recirculate the flow). He suggested a starting step for a Lake Oswego program as listing the policies, procedures and practices currently used by the City that fit under the three categories. He indicated that Lake Oswego would likely find that it was doing many positive things. He emphasized that the City should promote the good things that it has already done and then look at filling the gaps. Mr. Doppelt said that the two roles for government in taking the lead in sustainability were to lead by example by applying sustainability practices to government operations, and to establish a framework to help the private sector and non-profits do the same thing. He spoke of focusing on the human built infrastructure as well as the natural infrastructure, looking for greater efficiency and ways to shift to renewable sources of energy, water and raw materials. He mentioned greater efficiency in land transportation issues, sustainable neighborhood and building design and sustainable economic development. Mr. Doppelt stated that the answer to the question of whether a government could save money on this was yes. He recounted the example of the sustainability program that North Carolina initiated on the state level that was saving them significant dollars in a variety of programs from fleet vehicles to highway construction to correctional facilities to the paint plant. He emphasized that there were practical steps that governments could take in a sustainable development program that saved money. Mr. Doppelt referenced the graduate student research that found 160 examples of Oregon businesses and government organizations, in which the agencies saved money through sustainable development practices, even though none of them had a comprehensive program. He argued that an agency with a comprehensive program could have substantially higher cost savings. He mentioned a report on green building practices that could save $90 million annually in the region in energy, water and construction related costs, if it was adopted widely. Mr. Doppelt reviewed the five questions the City should try to answer within a sustainability program: • What was the City's commitment to sustainability? What was it trying to achieve? • How sustainable was the City now? (Baseline data assessment) • How sustainable did the City want to be in the future? (Development of targets and goals) • How did the City intend to achieve its goals? (development of a strategy and implementation plan) • How did the City measure sustainability? (development of indicators for documentation) Mr. Doppelt pointed out that the Council did not need to start with its final policy; giving Mr. Bunch the authority to move forward was enough policy to start with, as it established the program as a priority. Mr. Doppelt reviewed the benefits of a sustainability program: economic, environmental, and social. He noted that it could also help improve governance. Mayor Hammerstad pointed out that any new program had a lot of start up activity. She asked what Mr. Doppelt's experience has been with the additional staff responsibility resulting from the program. Mr. Doppelt said that most jurisdictions started lightly, often bringing in graduate students to gather data or asking departments for a 'back of the envelope' assessment of their use of energy and water resources. He recommended taking one small step at a time. Mr. Doppelt indicated to Mayor Hammerstad that initially it was not necessary to have someone in charge; Mr. Bunch serving as coordinator was sufficient. He pointed out that these programs tended to take on a life of their own; people would get to the point where they might City Council Morning Meeting Minutes Page 4 of 9 July 10, 2001 8b want a full-time person running the program. He observed that the cost savings of the program would pay for the employee. Councilor McPeak asked if there was a rule of thumb to assess the upfront cost increase of using green building practices in building a new building versus the more traditional construction. Mr. Doppelt commented that they have found that, although there could be higher construction costs, that was not always the case. He explained that the higher construction costs tended to focus on educating the architect in green building practices; once the firm and the architect understood the practices, then the price came down. Councilor McPeak asked if this worked as efficiently in remodeling a building. Mr. Doppelt observed that remodeling was a different game, depending on how old the building was. He indicated that they could design in renewable and sustainable building practices into a redesign. He mentioned the issue of toxics, which were expensive to manage throughout their life cycle. Mr. Doppelt concurred with Mayor Hammerstad that much of this was a matter of awareness and thinking of what the environmental impact would be of the paint or glue or whatever one was buying. Councilor McPeak commented that this was an economic question for all of society; what they have been doing is externalizing many of the costs, and now they needed to bring those costs back to the user. Mr. Doppelt concurred. He cited a report that demonstrated that they have been wasting money by externalizing the cost; with sustainability, they were trying to recapture the money they have been throwing away. Mr. Bunch discussed three things that he wanted to emphasize from his perspective. He said that they had to think about the environmental and social consequences of everything they did. He argued that, as public administrators,they had a responsibility of preserving, building and enhancing social capital as well as building and preserving the natural capital. He held that creating the sense of community, which resulted from this new way of doing business, was very important in terms of the public relationship with governance. Mr. Bunch said that the program required leadership and vision internally, and a broad level of communication across departments. He spoke to holding the departmental leaders accountable for ascertaining costs, and to asking them to evaluate budgeting from the different sense of sustainability. Mr. Bunch observed that, from a planning and community development perspective, some parts of their community were in the mid-life cycle; they needed to ask what would happen to the community at its end of life cycle. He spoke of two challenges facing the City: they had a mature and developed community, which meant looking at recycling and redevelopment, while they also had the opportunity of using sustainable concepts and designs in the new growth that would come with the expansion of the urban growth boundary. Mr. Doppelt emphasized that leadership and good governance were the two dominant issues that made the most difference in a successful sustainability program. Mayor Hammerstad observed that the Council and the City administration were committed to the many of the components of sustainability. She mentioned the sense of community and vision expressed by the staff and the Council. Mr. Doppelt indicated to Councilor Graham that he has not been involved in any sustainability programs with the local governments in the Klamath Falls area. Mayor Hammerstad asked Doug, Schmitz, City Manager, what he saw as the major challenges or barriers to moving forward with a sustainability program. Mr. Schmitz said that the major challenge was keeping the focus on the program, giving the number of things that came up during a year. He indicated that the barriers included changing the attitudes and practices that they had as individuals at this time. City Council Morning Meeting Minutes Page 5 of 9 July 10, 2001 Councilor McPeak spoke to the Council considering a policy about how to proceed with new construction in the city. Mayor Hammerstad suggested that, at its mid-year review,the Council discuss its goals in terms of these sustainability components and then allow some of the base work in the six months leading up to the next year. She mentioned her reluctance to add a new work program that was unrelated to the Council's adopted goals, which she thought that they had an obligation to the community to complete. She spoke to laying the groundwork for a goal next year. Councilor McPeak concurred. She argued that the building piece she mentioned was very clear and easy to start an educational process on. She stated that she thought this piece was very important. Mayor Hammerstad mentioned the School District going green on their new buildings. She commented that the District did look at the upfront costs. Councilor McPeak recalled that Mr. Doppelt said that the upfront costs were not always higher. She said that she thought it was regrettable if the schools did not use these practices. Mr. Bunch said that staff would like to re-animate the quality of life indicators process by having Mr. Doppelt's group help the staff begin developing them into a work program and framework for Council review. He explained that if they could get direction to do so, then they could `prime the pump' for future projects. Mayor Hammerstad said that she was talking about the same thing of`priming the pump' for the next six months and then looking at it for next year. Councilor Rohde commented that he became interested in this after his first year on the Council when they dealt with many capital replacement issues. He said that it seemed like they were constantly spending money on necessary infrastructure and he had wondered when they would be done. He remarked that they might never be done but they could reduce the amount of rebuilding by eliminating the inefficiencies and looking to the long term in the construction. Councilor Rohde asked about the success incentives for the private sector and how the government provided leadership. He asked if they provided tax breaks for green building practices or for business owners who contributed to social capital, such as a bowling alley. He commented that he had not thought much about social capital until he attended the Livable Oregon conference two weeks ago. Mr. Doppelt said that they had a number of examples of how communities have addressed those issues, which they would be happy to provide. He pointed out that, in the end, the Council had to develop the incentives based on what was going on in Lake Oswego. Mayor Hammerstad spoke to considering the question of incentives, as they did want to stimulate private dollars through redeveloping with public dollars. Mr. Doppelt discussed the issue of social capital. He said that if the City asked community members for their ideas on how to address these issues, laid out in a framework of what the City was trying to achieve, then the City would hear many creative suggestions on what to do. He explained that this was one way to enhance community involvement. He pointed out that the same principle applied to department heads asking the employees for their suggestions. Mr. Doppelt mentioned that a common theme he has seen in government was, rather than providing tax incentives, the government simply laid out the principles and standards that the private sector had to meet in order to receive government assistance. He said that the governments tended to see people coming forward in response. Councilor Turchi mentioned the interesting problems created by development. He recalled that the District built Lakeridge High School 30 years ago as a model of energy efficiency. He indicated that, while Lakeridge was the most efficient building in the district, it achieved that efficiency by using a heat exchange system that required pumping tens of thousands of gallons of water every day, which went into the waste water system. He pointed out that now the question was should the District stop pumping water or increase its energy usage. City Council Morning Meeting Minutes Page 6 of 9 July 10, 2001 9U Mayor Hammerstad commented that one of the problems with looking at alternative energy sources was how much energy did it take to develop the alternative energy sources. She agreed that these were tough questions. Councilor Graham moved to direct staff to continue to develop the framework of the program for future consideration, and also work with Portland State University's Mark Hatfield School of Government to complete the quality of life program in the interim. Councilor Rohde seconded the motion. A voice vote was taken and the motion passed with Mayor Hammerstad, Councilors Rohde,Turchi, Graham and McPeak voting in favor. [5-0] 3.2 Foothills Study Mr. Bunch gave a PowerPoint presentation. He reviewed the requested council actions (page 2), including the composition of the stakeholder committee. He mentioned their contract with Crandall Arambula to work on this project. He noted that staff has proposed candidates for each position on the committee with the exception of LORA. Mr. Bunch reviewed the site location of the Foothills Road area(page 4), the site characteristics (page 5), the geographic context(page 6), and the opportunities and constraints to redevelopment (page 7-11). He pointed out that the area was not visible because of the grade change at Highway 43. He reported that the Mayor, Mr. Schmitz, Ms. Heisler and himself met with Metro staff to discuss these issues. He said that they felt that they had a cooperative relationship with Metro, in that Metro has committed to work with the City on developing this valuable addition to the East End town center. He held that the issues were surmountable through a well-conceived development plan. Mr. Bunch reviewed the assets and opportunities available with the Foothills Road area(page 12-13). He presented the proposed six-month schedule, beginning in July, and the resultant products (page 14). He indicated that once staff completed the products, LORA, the Council and the Planning Commission could proceed with amending the redevelopment district boundaries. Councilor McPeak asked if staff had a better idea now of how much of the available land they could build on without using stilts. Mr. Bunch said that Title 3 required that they build the base habitable floor one-foot above the base flood elevation. He explained that staff would do cross- sections, using the surveys they did in the 1996 flood, and model how much cut and fill would be needed. He indicated that almost all of the area would require some elevation of the first floor area but staff would bring back a finding on how much of the area could be built without stilts. Mr. Bunch pointed out that 200 to 300 feet from the Willamette River would be off limits to development because of the Willamette Greenway. He mentioned restoration of certain portions of Tryon Creek. He said that Metro asked Lake Oswego to look at the Willamette River inside the City of Lake Oswego as a system, similar to the approach that Portland was taking in its River Renaissance project, as a means of making river-oriented sites developable and contributing to the town center. Mr. Bunch indicated to Councilor McPeak that the Foothills Road area did have comparable problems to the River Place development in Portland, although Portland built River Place before the Endangered Species Act requirements came in. He confirmed to Mayor Hammerstad that it was more like a mini-North Macadam. Councilor Rohde asked what the likelihood was of getting rid of the chip plant, given that James River called the shots. Mr. Bunch indicated that he thought it was possible to see some relocation as part of the redevelopment, but he could not give a probability within a particular time frame. Councilor Rohde mentioned a question that he heard all the time: "You're going to put development right down there by the sewer treatment plant? It stinks." Mayor Hammerstad spoke of the mitigation measures available through the new technology, which could help. City Council Morning Meeting Minutes Page 7 of 9 July 10, 2001 91 Mayor Hammerstad pointed out that the region and the City of Portland have committed to the reclamation of the riverfront. She argued that Lake Oswego's riverfront was an area for which they should be able to get help for redevelopment, as it fit in with the River Renaissance project. She spoke to considering carefully the small businesses in the area that have invested but reiterated that, for the future, this did seem to be a possibility. Councilor Rohde said that he brought these questions up because he saw the chip plant and the treatment plant as fatal flaws that they needed to address before moving forward. Mayor Hammerstad described them as `obstacles.'. Councilor Graham pointed out that Portland might have retrofitted the Kellogg Creek treatment plant but it still stank, which she saw as an issue. She asked if Tri-Met was receptive to a park and ride bus facility in addition to a commuter rail. Mr. Bunch said that Tri-Met's approach was multi-modal. Tri-Met saw effective transportation services in this corridor as consisting of three legs: commuter rail, extension of another rail from Lake Oswego and bus transit. He mentioned that both ODOT and Metro were receptive because they agreed that they could not build additional capacity into Highway 43 because of the topographic and geological constraints. Councilor McPeak noted the federal government's interest in development in floodplains, since what happened in a floodplain affected the next flood. Mayor Hammerstad said that there were things that they could not do if it made the water someone else's problem, such as building a floodwall, but as long as they let the water flow freely, they should be in good shape. Mayor Hammerstad directed the discussion to the composition of the steering committee. Councilor McPeak asked about the defining characteristics for the citizen-at-large position. Mr. Schmitz said that Mr. Bunch proposed Bill Beebe, the retired Planning Commission chair, for the position. Councilor Graham asked if they should have a steering committee member from an environmental group. Mr. Bunch said that the Portland Bureau of Services recommended candidate, Roberta Jartner, was Portland's Willamette River Watershed Coordinator. He observed that any time one got within 100 miles of the Willamette River, they had to coordinate with a long list of people from the Army Corps of Engineers to Oregon State Parks to DSL. He spoke to bringing the Natural Resources Advisory Board into the process. Mr. Bunch reviewed the candidates that staff recommended for the positions: Rick Marine, Foothill property owners; Bill Beebe, citizen at large; Mary Beth Coffee, Oswego Pointe Condominium Owners Association, Roberta Jartner, Portland Bureau of Environmental Services; Julie Morales, Development Review Commission; and Chris Hoffmann, Chamber of Commerce Executive Director. He mentioned that Dan Vizzini from the Planning Commission asked if anyone else on the Commission was interested and that Frank Groznick and David Waring expressed interest. Mr. Waring would serve as the alternate. Mr. Bunch indicated to Councilor McPeak that Ms. Coffee was on the Board of the Oswego Pointe Condominium Owners Association and appointed by the Board at a regular meeting. Mr. Bunch informed Councilor Turchi that they planned the first meeting in August to discuss opportunities and constraints. Following that, they would develop a charge statement for Council review and an official schedule in conjunction with Crandall Arambula. Councilor Rohde moved to approve the composition of the committee. Councilor Turchi seconded the motion. A voice vote was taken and the motion passed with Mayor Hammerstad, Councilors Rohde,Turchi, Graham and McPeak voting in favor. 15-0] Mayor Hammerstad volunteered to serve as the LORA representative. Councilor Turchi agreed to serve as the alternate. Councilor Rohde asked if staff could do a quick assessment about the changes in property values, resulting from the rezone. Mr. Bunch said that Crandall Arambula could pull that information out of the baseline economic analysis it was doing. City Council Morning Meeting Minutes Page 8 of 9 July 10, 2001 Councilor Rohde asked at what point during the process did they need to expand the redevelopment district. He discussed his concern that property values might increase once the City started working on this draft redevelopment plan, and thus reduce the tax increment. Mayor Hammerstad explained that normally Clackamas County did not reassess property values when the zoning changed; it reassessed the value when the use changed. Mr. Bunch confirmed to Councilor Rohde that the Council could run the plan development and the amendment of the redevelopment district concurrently. Mayor Hammerstad suggested checking with the County staff on the specifics of timing, as the County has done a number of renewal districts. Mayor Hammerstad left the meeting, after appointing Councilor Turchi as Presiding Officer. • The Council considered Agenda Item 3.4, Livable Oregon, at this time. 3.3 Rivergrove Sewer Mayor Hammerstad concurred with Mr. Schmitz that the City was on hold with respect to the Rivergrove Sewer extension until staff heard back from the County. She commented that she got the impression that the Board had not realized what a bind they had put the City in, and that asking for either support for the LID or participating in the zone of benefit put them in the right place. She observed that they had some strenuous follow-up on the issues discussed at last night's meeting. 3.4 Livable Oregon The Council discussed when to listen to Councilor Rohde's report and view the video. The Council agreed by consensus to wait until the entire Council was present. Councilor Rohde asked if anyone wanted to attend 'An Evening with Allen Durning' in Corvallis; Mr. Durning authored several books on sustainability and other issues. 3.5 Other Matters Councilor Rohde mentioned a potential situation with the trolley operators who did not support a rail bike operation sharing the line with them. He suggested that Mr. Powell visit with the trolley operators and inform them that the City has signed an agreement with the rail bike operators and that it was looking forward to how the trolley operators worked cooperatively with the rail bike operator. David Powell, City Attorney, mentioned receiving a voice mail from Michael Rohde yesterday about the possibility of someone with no franchise using the line. 4. ADJOURNMENT Councilor Turchi adjourned the meeting at 9:15 a.m. Respectfully submitted, kMa.Z. 7,41‘(/)04...;�vcGarvin Deputy City Recorder APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL: ON Judie Hammerstad, Mayor City Council Morning Meeting Minutes Page 9 of 9 July 10, 2001 93