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Approved Minutes - 1989-03-01 PM RIVERFRONT RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE • Minutes of the March 1, 1989 meeting (rescheduled from February 22 , 1989) I. Roll Call: Present were Committee members Frank Zagunis (Chair/Rowing ) , Don Potter (Canoe/Kayaking) , Geoff Hollister ( Sailing ) , and Tom Kelly from the Recreation Department . II . Approval of Minutes of the January 25 , 1989 meeting III . Open Public Communications: None IV. Old Business A . The Committee determined that the questions to be submitted to consultants putting together the comprehensive community recreation questionnaire should be the ones on the questionnaire previously adopted by the Committee. (Copy attached) B. Review of individual outlines for preparation of comprehensive document to present to PROS. Don Potter presented his recommendations as to the • number and types of craft , and costs of canoes , paddles , kayaks , life preservers , trailers , and other equipment appropriate for canoeing/kayaking instruction. Although estimates on the cost of a storage facility would require further investigation , he estimated the cost of purchasing equipment to be $ 12, 175. Don did not have specific names of potential instructors , but said that vendors of water sport equipment often provide instruction along with equipment rentals (e .g. , REI, Sports Marina in Oregon City) . The Committee discussed the advantages and disadvantages of purchasing vs . leasing equipment and of contracting out for instructors . Don said he is generally unhappy with rental equipment due to the wear and tear it takes . On the other hand , sports rental concerns do have to watch out for their property , protect their investments . Even if we do buy equipment , then how would the program be staffed, and who and how would the equipment be maintained? The Charirman asked Don to identify instructors , suggesting Boy Scout / Explorer Scout troops (Possibly SEA Scouts? ) The Committee also discussed what the City could charge S a vendor/concessionaire that provided instruction : ideas included in-kind exchanges of instruction for use Page 1 of the waterfront ; and a 10% administrative override • fee. Geoff indicated that it has been difficult to get in touch with sailing instructors lately . Neither Portland Sailing Center nor Island Sailing Club has been available , possibly due to the boat show , and the strong seasonality of sailing due to river heights . The members agreed that a program which relies on a profit making entity for instruction is undesirable because if the business goes under , our program is interrupted, if not up a creek . The Committee agreed that there should be one person to act as coordinator for the water sports program, a person who could help promote the program as well as coordinate activities , rent equipment , etc . , preferably at a site right on the waterfront . Perhaps a retired person or a college student , who would need technical assistance - a person who could perhaps teach one class , but hire other technicians for other classes . The Committee also addressed the problem of storing equipment once it is purchased . Tom is to check on whether the City has extra storage space anywhere , but thought it was doubtful. Don Potter felt that the storage space should be right on the waterfront , that storage should be part of negotiations with the developer as to whether the City site will be at the • Marina , at George Rogers Park , on the Tualatin. . . . The Committee also agreed that it should move ahead on finding a coordinator , researching different businesses for instructors , investigating equipment purchase/ lease (would the City save money on a " fleet price" for boats? ) , rate structures for classes and for renting out boats and equipment - general operations , which the coordinator would be responsible for in the future. Also, some kind of structure for the program should be devised in order to draw people (both instructors and the public) to it : i . e. , set the hours of instruction , the City would control that ; and customers would control rental hours . The Chairman pointed out that in terms of the City' s budget process it is important that the Committee get at least a rough draft of its comprehensive report to the PROS Committee by summer of 1989 in order to have it considered in the early part of the budget process for the Fiscal Year 1990-91 (FY 88- 89 is nearly over [ June 30 ] , and the budget is already being drawn up for FY 89-90) . The costs of operations , instruction, equipment should be presented as a palatable capital outlay , with return on investment shown as soon as possible - like the Golf Course , self supporting , profit making and an enhancement to the Parks and Rec . Page 2 Geoff Hollister will nail down some of the info on • sailing for the next meeting . Frank Zagunis handed around copies of some " river maps" prepared by Mike and Ed (attached to the minutes in the minute book) . Tom Kelly will check on the status of the comprehensive Parks & Rec survey being prepared by consultants . V. New Business A . Report from Chair Frank Zagunis : Annual reports of advisory committees to PROS Committee (February 15 , 1989) . The PROS Committee was generally impressed with the amount of work the Riverfront Recreation Advisory Committee had accomplished in the few months since its members were appointed. But , Frank indicated, he realized that RRAC is running up against a P& R budget that is being allocated for buying land and developing parks and athletic fields (high priority) VI . Adjourn NEXT MEETING: WEDNESDAY, APRIL 5 , 1989 7 :00 pm , Recreation Department Conference Room City Hall • Page 3